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I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

So just so everyone has the full context: Oakland opened up its vaccination sites to more people on a shorter timeline than the rest of the state, in certain ZIP codes with disproportionately poor residents, in order to get vaccines to those disproportionately poor residents. I know this because this is how several of my friends who live in West Oakland got vaccinated ahead of the eligibility opening up in the rest o…

So we getting offended at people getting vaccinated now? Smh

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>He also added ~"there's 2 sides of a story". I don't see why Dang wouldn't be allowed to add a comment regarding this topic. The fact that it's the top post is the most questionable thing here, it seems pinned to the top. The statement is seemingly fair and balanced but make no mistake it's not. A common technique among corporations and public relations experts is to try to seemingly be fair about things that are ob…

> "The fact that it's the top post is the most questionable thing here, it seems pinned to the top." I thought he might have pinned it, but that isn't the case: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27401409 > "I certainly didn't intend it to be the top comment; that was entirely by upvotes."

I mean he can lie right? Like I said, it's a conflict of interest. Most of the things I remarked on are 50/50 in the sense that I'm only 50% sure something sketchy is going on, worth remarking on, but I am not confirming anything.

But Dangs post here looks like a freaking announcement where the intention is to indeed pin it at the top of the thread with fake upvotes or whatever mechanism they use with this site. This one is a 75/25 for me, with a 75% chance he is lying and a 25% chance he didn't pin it.

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I’m also surprised how many people bragged about jumping ahead in line when elderly people with much higher mortality rates were still waiting for theirs. At least keep it to yourself.

What the heck is going on here, everybody in the bay above 18 is already vaccinated, what lines are you talking about?

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post #468

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> "The fact that it's the top post is the most questionable thing here, it seems pinned to the top." I thought he might have pinned it, but that isn't the case: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27401409 > "I certainly didn't intend it to be the top comment; that was entirely by upvotes."

I mean he can lie right? Like I said, it's a conflict of interest. Most of the things I remarked on are 50/50 in the sense that I'm only 50% sure something sketchy is going on, worth remarking on, but I am not confirming anything. But Dangs post here looks like a freaking announcement where the intention is to indeed pin it at the top of the thread with fake upvotes or whatever mechanism they use with this site. This…

> "I mean he can lie right?"

If you're not willing to engage with him in good faith, I have a hard time understanding why you’re commenting in this thread. Have a good evening.

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A friend of mine flew out from Zurich to CA to get a shot. They gave him one without checking anything. His response? “America has the best vaccine program on the planet. They have so many rules in Zurich that the confusion is holding things back. They’d rather throw away vaccines than break minor rules”. Vaccination should be easy, bureaucracy free and straightforward; especially now . I can understand age restricti…

I think there is a large difference between having guidelines and asking people to voluntarily follow them for the sake of expediency, and having a policy of first-come-first-served. This incident was in March, and what is really sad is that back in March there were places in the US where it really was first-come-first-served. I know many people here in Illinois that got vaccines in Indiana because their official pol…

It was very different in CA than it was in IL. demand far outpaced supply here in CA during the time we’re talking about.

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post #453

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They don't ask for proof of poverty at a food bank either. And "Am I eligible here" could be seen about specifically asking about age/preconditions eligibility. In fact, that whole conversation could have been changed trivially to picking up free food at a food bank and would not have looked out of place. As for "if you're offered a vaccine take it", I don't think that applies to "I can go somewhere to get offered th…

They didn’t skirt some eligibility rules because no one asked questions. The west Oakland site first tried reaching out to local low income community members and after seeing low uptake opened it up to everyone one, the pastor of the church himself was encouraging anyone over 18 to come by.

mbgerring's post further up the chain definitely claims that they exceeded the eligibility rules. Inviting people from outside the prioritized neighborhood to come take shots and there being a 4 hour line implies skirting eligibility rules.

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post #473
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I’m also surprised how many people bragged about jumping ahead in line when elderly people with much higher mortality rates were still waiting for theirs. At least keep it to yourself.

What the heck is going on here, everybody in the bay above 18 is already vaccinated, what lines are you talking about?

The event under discussion happened in March.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

#478

I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

For context, this site was at Mt. Zion Missionary Baptist Church in West Oakland. It was intentionally located there to target the local underserved communities. At the time, California was in phases 1A and 1B. This was intended for elderly and essential workers.

There was misinformation that it was first-come, first-serve to anyone who wanted it. I looked into it at the time and it was easy to verify that this was not true. The CA State website, the church's fliers, and their help line were all clear.

Here's an example clearly listing who was eligible: https://twitter.com/SarahBelleLin/status/1370071520953835520...

They intentionally did not check eligibility to avoid putting barriers up for high risk people. It was effectively an honor system.

This site ended up being oversubscribed and most doses went to people outside the targeted area or demographic: https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/article/A-West-Oakland-chu...

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

#479

I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

So just so everyone has the full context: Oakland opened up its vaccination sites to more people on a shorter timeline than the rest of the state, in certain ZIP codes with disproportionately poor residents, in order to get vaccines to those disproportionately poor residents. I know this because this is how several of my friends who live in West Oakland got vaccinated ahead of the eligibility opening up in the rest o…

> Your post suggests that the result of your post on the YC message board is that people who did not live in those zip codes came to Oakland to take advantage of a program that was not meant for them

That part makes no sense. If it “wasn’t for them” they’d have been turned away. You have to provide your drivers license to get vaccinated. Your address is on the license. If it was limited to people living in a certain zip code they could easily turn them away.

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So just so everyone has the full context: Oakland opened up its vaccination sites to more people on a shorter timeline than the rest of the state, in certain ZIP codes with disproportionately poor residents, in order to get vaccines to those disproportionately poor residents. I know this because this is how several of my friends who live in West Oakland got vaccinated ahead of the eligibility opening up in the rest o…

You are mixing two things. Even if the sites were setup for poor neighborhood, it doesn't necessarily mean they are exclusive for people from those neighborhood. And also, basic common sense, the sites are run by adults. If the adults over there don't care, why should you care? Unless you have specific knowledge of people lied to get to use those sites, nobody need your judgement to "exonerate" themselves.

"If the adults over there don't care, why should you care?"

What makes you think that the people running the sites, once fully informed, would not have cared? If you cheat on your partner, but your partner is not upset (of course, they don't know about it) your logic states that no one should call you an asshole for it.

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