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Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Israel can get all the detailed imagery it needs by just launching a reconnaissance aircraft or drone. So on that basis I would say it only stops the Palestinians from getting imagery of the area. Now considering the fact Palestine only has rockets and not missiles, I doubt that imagery is of much value to them. Call me cynical, but I suspect the more important reason to keep these images blurred might be to stop the…

I have learned to demand a very high standard of evidence for conspiracy theories, so...let's see the evidence that there is some conspiracy between Google and Israel to hide what is happening there. For that matter, I am not even sure what you think Israel is hiding -- Netanyahu is not at all shy about settlements, the IDF calls people up to tell them when a bomb is going to be dropped on their building, and there a…

They are hiding the scale of it. Destroyed houses, trees, farms in Palestine. It is a map, it shows the scale immediately

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Can OpenStreetMap or someone make non-authoritative maps, or is this impossible without the cooperation of people on the ground who cannot operate safely within the borders of China?

It's "impossible". Private, independent geographical surveying is illegal in China. [0] So technically you can't do it even in the local coordinate system. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restrictions_on_geographic_dat...

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Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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post #355

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Israel can get all the detailed imagery it needs by just launching a reconnaissance aircraft or drone. So on that basis I would say it only stops the Palestinians from getting imagery of the area. Now considering the fact Palestine only has rockets and not missiles, I doubt that imagery is of much value to them. Call me cynical, but I suspect the more important reason to keep these images blurred might be to stop the…

I don't know the technical distinction between rockets and missiles. Hamas has some guided explosives that other people that know more about this than I do call missiles. They used to only have unguided rockets - not anymore, for at least 6 years. "The Russian-made Kornet anti-tank guided missile, often called ATGM as an acronym, is accurate and effective. It has a range of around 5.5 kilometers and has been used by…

Rocket is unguided. Missile is guided.

ATGM are missiles, but they are close range and used to attack vehicles (armored usually) - they are not useful for attacking long range or building/bases.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Wikipedia (of course!) has a list of locations intentionally blurred on public satellite map services: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_satellite_map_images_w...

That's interesting - the one in Antarctica, for example, really tickles the fantasy, doesn't it.

This declassified video is maybe relevant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ujx_pND9wg

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Wikipedia (of course!) has a list of locations intentionally blurred on public satellite map services: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_satellite_map_images_w...

That's interesting - the one in Antarctica, for example, really tickles the fantasy, doesn't it.

Not really. The reason seems pretty straight forward to me, "The vast majority of Antarctica is also in low resolution due to the bright, often featureless, ice and snow making high-resolution imaging both difficult and largely unnecessary".

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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- Yes. - Israel. - Yes, see how they took a position on the heart of this issue — the occupied territories themselves. They literally erased Palestine from the map.

Well, you actually don't know the facts. Palestine is a land, it was called that way even when the time of the British mandate, before WWII. Are the arabs that lived there are Palestinians? Yes. But what you don't mention is that also the jews that lived there were called Palestinians. The land of Israel and Palestine are exactly the same thing. There are arab Palestinians and jew Palestinians. They were not so smart…

Palestine was a Nation. Not merely a land. It had autonomy and governance all through history

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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The short answer is no. High-resolution imagery comes from low-orbit satellites, which make a complete orbit about every two hours, and image long, narrow strips with each pass, taking days to image the whole planet. There are many of these satellites: commercial, non-military (publicly-accessible) governmental, and governmental (secret), of varying resolutions. These are also supplemented by aerial (plane) imagery.…

Starlink is seeking approval for tens of thousands of low-earth-orbit satellites. Each one will have high-bandwidth network connections. It doesn't seem intractable to put cameras on each one and stitch their feeds together for imagery that's maximum 30 minutes old for any arbitrary point on the globe. And the market for near-real-time imagery might be even larger than the market for internet connectivity.

There is a huge difference between a comms relay sat (basically a transponder, a battery, and solar panels ) and an imaging satellite , which needs a huge collector mirror that coats O(billions) to polish.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Israel can get all the detailed imagery it needs by just launching a reconnaissance aircraft or drone. So on that basis I would say it only stops the Palestinians from getting imagery of the area. Now considering the fact Palestine only has rockets and not missiles, I doubt that imagery is of much value to them. Call me cynical, but I suspect the more important reason to keep these images blurred might be to stop the…

I have learned to demand a very high standard of evidence for conspiracy theories, so...let's see the evidence that there is some conspiracy between Google and Israel to hide what is happening there. For that matter, I am not even sure what you think Israel is hiding -- Netanyahu is not at all shy about settlements, the IDF calls people up to tell them when a bomb is going to be dropped on their building, and there a…

We don't have any evidence.

We do know that Israel has launched 1000 to 1500 missiles up until 10 pm pacific time.

Netanyahu has been blatant over taking back "theiir" land lately.

Netanyahu is in a very close political race.

I won't say what I thinking though out of respect for the rules.

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Same reason that this conflict always gets the same optics in international media — jewish lives are worth less. At first, as you don't want to believe it, you argue, you investigate, you really try to find any sane reason that while these things are happening on ground with you and your family, everybody else still sees a different picture, and then you just come to realisation that there's no other explanation for…

But more Palestenian lives are being lost. Purely from a numbers perspective if you put aside all other variables or blame, wouldn't that explain why one side is being criticized extra right now?

How about criticizing Hamas, a terrorist organization, for shooting rockets at civilian populations of a country with one of the most advanced armies of the world?

How about criticizing Hamas for shooting these rockets from civilian centers?

Seems like the media is willfully ignorant here.

Then you have nonsense like: https://www.vox.com/2014/7/17/5912189/yes-gaza-militants-hid...

Clearly this smells foul.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Not really related to the article at hand, but I've been on a bit of a Google Maps binge the past couple weeks. I learned a few interesting facts, blurry Israel being one of them. Another strange thing I found that might not be super well known (I didn't know about it) is that all GPS data in China is offset by a nonlinear psuedo-random amount. If you turn on the satellite view in Google Maps and look at various citi…

All Google products except the Google Translate App are blocked in China. So no Google maps.

I spent 2 months cycling China from Hong Kong to Beijing. Despite only using Chinese characters, Baidu maps worked very well for me. I copied the characters I needed (Hotel, supermarket) into it from the translator.

Here's my journal https://www.cycleblaze.com/journals/5000years

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