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Re: Why Lichess will always be free

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Post by tnzm »

tnzm wrote: post #469
johannes1234321 wrote: post #275

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The question is who audits it etc. This will become more funny with We assembly. There review isnahrder and even if it is free software it will be ages to verify the code the server delivers matches the source. There is a fundamental control issue where a license debate is irrelevant detour. (For me this is the biggest flaw in the FSF - they haven't grasped that yet, while smart ideas would be needed)

Provided a malicious host could take measures to serve the auditors a binary that matches the source, and something entirely different for everyone else, I know of no good way to confirm that a remotely served binary corresponds to the published source. That's why the FSF takes a stand against what it calls "software as a service substitute". Technically, they are correct, for the reason stated above. An Internet tha…

FIX: it's actually "service as a software substitute", not the other way around.

FSF could benefit from catchier nomenclature, even the "free as in blah blah" is too complex for the knee-jerk thinking cultivated in consumers; why couldn't they have called it "freedomware" or some such, I can't help but wonder; it was born in the same epoch as "shareware", "freeware", etc.

"Libre" is cute but causes associations with communism in the American public - same core userbase that is happy with shooting people in the name of "freedom", and would be proud to promote "freedomware", unlike today.

Re: Why Lichess will always be free

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Post by [deleted] »

littlestymaar wrote: post #176
matsemann wrote: post #102

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I'm not talking about entitlement. But this guy is really good at multiple things. SRE, frontend, backend, project management etc. He could probably earn twice as much working a normal job, and even more for the right company. He don't want to. And maybe don't want/need to earn more. And that is completely fine. But his impact is huuuge. I'd wish more people did like him. But I don't think many will, because those sk…

> But this guy is really good at multiple things. SRE, frontend, backend, project management etc. He could probably earn twice as much working a normal job, and even more for the right company. AFAIK, he is French, so you need to compare it with the local job market: there's no way he could get twice as much even in the most-paying company here, the market price for such a profile is probably around €70k, assuming he…

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Re: Why Lichess will always be free

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Post by dang »

almavi wrote: post #465
dang wrote: post #368

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That is not even close to how this thread turned out. Would you please not post low-quality disses like this? They break the site guidelines, like this one: " Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. " ( https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ) - and they lead to extremely low-quality discussion, as seen below.

I'm sorry, will do in the future. Thanks for the comment.

Appreciated!

Re: Why Lichess will always be free

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Post by dang »

fragmede wrote: post #400
dang wrote: post #362

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> the powerful technocrats living in silicon valley, the primary users of HackerNews. That's a serious misperception. Only about 10% of HN users were anywhere near SV, last I checked, and the vast majority of those aren't "powerful technocrats". I frequently see comments like this setting up (or expressing) barriers between the commenter and the rest of the community, when the truth is that the community is mostly ju…

Have there been any posts doing analysis of the demographics of this site? And if not, could a data scientist come in, visiting professor style, and do one? I think it would be fascinating! (link just goes to guidelines site which does not discuss demographics)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16633521 comes to mind but is already 3 years old.

Re: Why Lichess will always be free

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Post by silicon2401 »

Chris2048 wrote: post #467
silicon2401 wrote: post #354

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Says the comment I replied to > When I go to a website, I decide to direct my attention to this website, because I believe it will offer something of interest to me.

That quote doesn't contradict what I said, since it says nothing about "without any reason to do so". You are specifically talking about compensation, which that quote does not.

You must be pulling my leg, you're not even addressing what I've been commenting

Re: Why Lichess will always be free

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Post by kixiQu »

0xffff2 wrote: post #375
kixiQu wrote: post #347

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It's not silly only in proportion to your employer's aggression on the topic. Perhaps there needs to be an account disclaimer checkbox as a standard feature: "I speak in no official capacity related to any employer or professional role"....

It's silly because most employers have no ability to match "0xffff2" or "pbhjpbhj" or "kixiQu". To a person in the real world. I've never identified myself as an employee of my company on this account and I'm certainly not identifying myself as an employee of my company in this post, so since I don't work for the NSA, I post whatever I want, no disclaimer necessary. If for some reason I did want to identify my employ…

Oh you can definitely put together where I work in a few Googles. Not everyone cares equally about maintaining pseudonymity; the boilerplate isn't meaningless if your employer is explicitly requesting it as a CYA.

Re: Why Lichess will always be free

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Post by aabbcc1241 »

beebmam wrote: post #378
eloisant wrote: post #236

Thibault Duplessis is actually an ex co-worker of mine, and this guy is truly impressive. Not only he is a very talented developer, he really sticks to his beliefs and made what Lichess is today. He used to take up a job for a year or so, save money, and travel the world for a year or so until money runs out. Then he would come back to France and take up a new job. All working on Lichess during his free time. For a f…

A way to have more people like Thibault is to make it so the cost of living is extremely cheap, if not totally guaranteed. A society creates its people.

If you develop for a niche you care about, even not for profit, it shouldn't be hard to cover the bill (along with other day job). I'm doing so but in small scale so far.
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