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Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by grzm »

nrmitchi wrote: post #461

This feels like an insane precedent to be setting. Any platform that accepts user generated content can potentially end up in this situation. Amazon appears to be setting a precedent here that any platform that has not fully solved content moderation at scale risks being kicked of AWS. It opens the door to what is effectively a DDoS; outpace moderation capability, get the site kicked off Amazon.

> "This feels like an insane president to be setting."

I think you mean precedent. (But maybe I'm mistaken.)

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DJPocari wrote: post #187

Where do we draw the line on how we censor the internet? Obviously actual terrorist group sites can and should be taken down, but this feels like it's getting more murky than that. - Should we be okay with Facebook censoring these groups? - Should we be okay with Google censoring search results? - Should we be okay with Apple censoring apps? - Should we be okay with AWS censoring websites? - Should we be okay with Go…

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Post by ecommerceguy »

eganist wrote: post #439

Something I don't think I've heard very many people ask: Are the Apple/Google evictions as well as the AWS eviction a consequence of the attack on the Capitol, or are they a consequence of something else? Such as FOSTA/SESTA? Parler got booted for not moderating anything, but if I understand correctly, not moderating anything puts Parler at acute risk of FOSTA/SESTA exposure, and that exposure runs both uphill (Apple…

I'm just curious, who introduced and signed that act into law?

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Post by matchbok »

seneca wrote: post #416

Everyone saying they deserve it for "facilitating attacks on the US government", ask yourself if you believe Antifa should be kicked off of every platform they exist on for burning police stations. This is hypocrisy. Far too much of modern tech is held by companies happy to use it as a political weapon, and all for one side. I'm disgusted by the people who populate Parler, but I'm actually afraid of these tech author…

Well, because antifa is not a thing. That's why. Who is the leader of antifa? Where do they organize?

That's what I thought.

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Post by xref »

Parler could of course get back on AWS/Apple/Play Store if they chose to moderate their worst element, but the CEO decided they won’t do that.

I’d guess at least part of his reasoning is because they wouldn’t have enough remaining non-violent conservative voices, because non-violent conservative voices weren’t banned from Twitter/FB etc, the violent and conspiratorial fringe was.

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> Amazon on Saturday kicked Parler off its Web hosting services. Parler, a social network favored by conservative politicians and extremists, was used to help plan and coordinate the January 6 attempted coup on Washington D.C. It has recently been overrun with messages encouraging “Patriots” to march on Washington D.C. with weapons on January 19.

Was this an "attempted coup" as well:

> https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-05-31...

> More than 60 US Secret Service Uniformed Division officers and special agents were injured starting Friday night through Sunday morning near the White House as protests rocked Washington, DC, following the death of George Floyd last week, according to a statement from the Secret Service.

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Post by whycombagator »

zelly wrote: post #386

Hypothetically, how would you go about staying online completely independently? Let's say you build your own data center, buy the real estate (because a landlord could be pressured to cancel your lease), purchase all the network equipment, and hire your own full-time employees. You still need to lease an IP block and a fiber connection from a carrier (like AT&T, Century Link, etc.). Couldn't they deplatform you too?…

> Hypothetically, how would you go about staying online completely independently?

Off the top of my head, things like IPFS (InterPlanetary File System) or the blockchain

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Post by bgorman »

Did anyone here actually use Parler? I installed it, and as a new user the default experience is basically a Twitter clone, but with only prominent right wing celebrities like Sean Hannitty.

I didn’t see any hateful trending topics here. My personal opinion is that it seems Parler is getting somewhat screwed here.

Sure, maybe there was some hateful content somewhere, but it certainly wasn’t being promoted to new users. Every online site has people trolling and spewing hate, but Parler is a tiny site with minimal funding.

I get that people want a scapegoat, but I do not think this is constructive.

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Post by yew »

seneca wrote: post #416

Everyone saying they deserve it for "facilitating attacks on the US government", ask yourself if you believe Antifa should be kicked off of every platform they exist on for burning police stations. This is hypocrisy. Far too much of modern tech is held by companies happy to use it as a political weapon, and all for one side. I'm disgusted by the people who populate Parler, but I'm actually afraid of these tech author…

All forms of extremism, regardless of political valence, should be deprived of air. Is that consistent enough for you?
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