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Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by quaa55 »

qz2 wrote: post #462
fxtentacle wrote: post #84

... and that's exactly why my TV will never have an internet connection. By now, it doesn't really matter which brand you use. I have analyzed Samsung, Sony, LG and Philips and ALL of them send data about your usage to NetEase in China and ALL of them have ToS that say that they might record your voice and store it for improving their AI or whatever. Plus all of them shove suggested apps in your face, so I'd say it i…

Well fuck. I didn’t know that. I was just about to buy a nice new 50” 4K Samsung smart TV. Purchase cancelled. Will keep my dumb Samsung 32” ass end model.

oh and don't plug the network jack in on the tv.

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Post by Miraste »

thakoppno wrote: post #395
felipelemos wrote: post #136

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I think the best way to fix this before it creates legs is to have a huge backslash. They should feel social pressure to backpedal this stupid decision by hurting their marketing for fear to be known as the brand that has ADS in their television sets.

Samsung TVs in the US have had ACR since 2012.

Consumers can't be made to care about ACR. Giant blatant ads are a different story.

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Post by zadler »

Anther wrote: post #364
marcosdumay wrote: post #321

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Oh, yes, brand awareness is a real thing. For example, a lot of people will avoid Samsung TVs right now.

I just bought an LG. I’m so glad I dodged this bullet. I would be furious.

How do you know LG won’t update the software later to include ads?

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Post by ascagnel_ »

quit32 wrote: post #445
nelaboras wrote: post #420

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Well, try to buy a high end non-smart TV. Near impossible

Just don't connect it to the internet. Also great solution for cheap subsidized TVs where they are banking on your connecting to your network so only charge $100. Plug in an apple TV and you are set.

> Just don't connect it to the internet.

Smart TV manufacturers are relying on the ongoing revenue from their software side nowadays, so they’ll usually mandate setting up an internet connection as part of the device setup process, and then only give you the option to change networks instead of disabling it outright.

If you’re tech savvy, you can take measures against this, but it’s not going to be simple for most folks.

You also have to worry about ethernet-over-HDMI unintentionally exposing the TV to the wider internet.

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Post by robszumski »

auggierose wrote: post #172
foepys wrote: post #39

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I also bought a Sony Android TV for this reason. Then last month Google pushed an update for the "Android TV Home" app and now there are many people complaining about ads on the home screen [1]. This is not really Sony's fault but rather Google's but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth… https://9to5google.com/2020/08/18/android-tv-homescreen-ads-...

Just buy an Apple TV, and then whatever TV you like.

And (this important) never hook the TV with Android up to a network connection. Only the Apple TV can get to the internet.

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Post by newforms »

undebuggable wrote: post #195
fxtentacle wrote: post #84

... and that's exactly why my TV will never have an internet connection. By now, it doesn't really matter which brand you use. I have analyzed Samsung, Sony, LG and Philips and ALL of them send data about your usage to NetEase in China and ALL of them have ToS that say that they might record your voice and store it for improving their AI or whatever. Plus all of them shove suggested apps in your face, so I'd say it i…

> and that's exactly why my TV will never have an internet connection. That's increasingly difficult, e.g. HDMI offers ethernet communication. I also don't think salespeople care to be informed well enough on this feature. It seems that the last resort is digging through the user manuals found on the internet before the purchase.

There is a difference between it having a network connection (i.e. ethernet) and having internet connectivity - you just need to be able to control the tv's traffic.

If the manufacturers start adding a 4G modem to their devices then that might change things. Hopefully the economics of that never work out.

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Post by bbojan »

RandomBacon wrote: post #423
m463 wrote: post #198

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I think that will just create a market opportunity. There was a company that made just a good tv, no smarts, but I can't find it right offhand. It think it was a european company

Sceptre TVs. They sell dumb 4K TVs.

I have one. Best buy I ever made.

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Post by nuker »

neya wrote: post #31

Fuck the guy who wanted to suck up to the management in some stupid meeting projecting estimated revenue out of this to ask for a raise later because he "contributed to a revenue increase" to the company. There's absolutely no after thought to this decision - If I paid 1000s of dollars for an "idiot box" that's supposed to reproduce faithfully the signal that I pass it, showing ads is unacceptable, no matter what the…

> showing ads is unacceptable, no matter what the context or reasoning is

Google is purely Ad company and is worth a trillion. Here is your context and reasoning, combined.

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Post by ascagnel_ »

brulard wrote: post #349
auggierose wrote: post #172

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Just buy an Apple TV, and then whatever TV you like.

I have ads on my Apple TV, don't you? Some movie trailers running in the background that I really don't want to see. And every time I miss-swipe somehow the Apple TV remote in an application, I get to that "home" screen watching another movie trailer :|

There are two ways to disable this:

- Remove the “TV” app from the top bar. - You can change the behavior from the “Settings” app to show your “TV” app’s watch queue instead of trailers.

You can’t disable the Music app videos, though.

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Post by Loughla »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #417
reaperducer wrote: post #363

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Or make the X button almost the same color as the background. TuneIn does this.

There are a ton of dark patterns in web design about this. - same color background - in the wrong corner (users expect the "X" in the upper right hand corner). I've seen the "X" in the wrong corner and some other icon in the right hand corner. People reflexive will click in the upper right hand corner and open the ad by mistake - I've seen where you have to click on text instead of the "X", clicking on the "X" just o…

What kills me is that the only app that I actually engage with ads is an app that has a voluntary button to see ads to support the developer. You click the 'watch ad' button, you watch a 15 second ad, or see a banner ad, and then return to the app when you close the screen.

The app asks once per month if I would consider seeing an ad to support the developer. I usually watch one ad a day, as a rule, because it's the best way to do this. I've clicked on those ads, and have actually made purchases from those ads (it was for a product I was already researching and probably going to buy, but I clicked through the ad when I finally purchased it).

More apps need that level of respect for their users' time.

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