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Re: Declining worker power vs. rising monopoly power: explaining recent macro trends

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Post by dang » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 8:08 AM UTC

Andrew_Quentin wrote: post #469

downerending wrote: post #408

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A big problem with filthy rich outfits is that they can simply afford to do this. My two highest-paying jobs were almost sinecures. The teams were massively overstaffed, and it could be quite difficult to find productive things to work on. I spent a lot of time simply waiting, which is to say killing time. If your goal in life is to be rich, it's not bad, I guess. If you really love doing good tech, it's stultifying.

Are you a bot? Where do you find those stupid words? No wonder you're attracted to useless positions for status.

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Re: Declining worker power vs. rising monopoly power: explaining recent macro trends

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Post by Andrew_Quentin » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 4:34 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #471

Andrew_Quentin wrote: post #469

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Are you a bot? Where do you find those stupid words? No wonder you're attracted to useless positions for status.

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Wow, this place has completely transformed then? More like pleb news nowadays I guess rather than hacker news. Shame.

Re: Declining worker power vs. rising monopoly power: explaining recent macro trends

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Post by dang » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 5:33 PM UTC

Andrew_Quentin wrote: post #472

dang wrote: post #471

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Wow, this place has completely transformed then? More like pleb news nowadays I guess rather than hacker news. Shame.

You'd always have been banned for posting like that (edit: I mean https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23423311).

Re: Declining worker power vs. rising monopoly power: explaining recent macro trends

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Post by Frondo » Sat, Jun 06, 2020, 10:30 PM UTC

WalterBright wrote: post #468

Frondo wrote: post #392

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The libertarian argument generally goes that competition will keep them all in check, but history has shown again and again how it doesn't work in the general case. If you want to see what small government/strong corporate control is like, look back a century in American history. Corporations controlled much more of American life than they do even now, and the 20th century regulatory state is all very much a direct r…

> The libertarian argument generally goes that competition will keep them all in check The libertarian argument is that the proper role of government is to protect people from force or fraud being used against them.

In true libertarian form, this is a platitude and a non-sequitur. Maybe you should go surfing instead, the waves follow the NAP.

Re: Declining worker power vs. rising monopoly power: explaining recent macro trends

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Post by pydry » Sun, Jun 07, 2020, 1:00 PM UTC

brenden2 wrote: post #109

pydry wrote: post #72

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I could see Louis 16th's failed flight to varennes being repeated in a different form. It wasnt a lack of technology that stopped him, it was a man recognizing him and arresting him. Part of the problem was that he left it too long to attempt fleeing.

They didn't have helicopters, underground bunkers, and air force one.

Or anti aircraft missiles and power drills.

Coups still exist today.

Re: Declining worker power vs. rising monopoly power: explaining recent macro trends

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Post by gremlinsinc » Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 5:31 AM UTC

Frondo wrote: post #463

gremlinsinc wrote: post #451

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There's a way down the middle. Unions. Say a group of people unionized and formed a collective coop org. Workers would get paid fairly who were employed by the co-op and would be members of the union. The union would create it's own credit union and financial instruments and be a mesh of a CU and old style savings/loan. The CU/Bank aspect would also invest in real estate (section 8 housing mostly and other but try to…

Oh, I am all in favor of unions, and you're absolutely right. It's a tragedy, yet an unsurprising one, that business co-opted government to restrain union power the way it did. In fact, in the "small government" vein, I'd suggest repealing Taft-Hartley immediately. The biggest immediate benefit to repealing that would be that unions could once again freely conduct wildcat strikes. But that's not what libertarians gen…

Big difference though between 'libertarian party' and libertarian socialism. I'd support M4A, I've just given up hope through gov't sanctioned socialism, so let's find a new path through unions and combining forces of the many, creating some huge collective. W/ the internet it doesn't need to be local anymore.... it'd kind of be like those religious health share programs, but no religion needed.