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Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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How does anyone think this is a good idea? It should be clear which news site I am reading when I'm reading an article. Otherwise, how do I know which bias to apply? On iOS, the title bar says "google.com" whether I'm reading an article from CNN.com or WashingtonExaminer.com. Of all the anti-competitive actions google has taken around search results, AMP is by far the worst. I hope they get smacked down for it in the…

> How does anyone think this is a good idea?

Isn't Malte Ubl one of the developer/architect behind it? I could be wrong about this but I remember reading his notes/thoughts on AMP last year.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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How does anyone think this is a good idea? It should be clear which news site I am reading when I'm reading an article. Otherwise, how do I know which bias to apply? On iOS, the title bar says "google.com" whether I'm reading an article from CNN.com or WashingtonExaminer.com. Of all the anti-competitive actions google has taken around search results, AMP is by far the worst. I hope they get smacked down for it in the…

> How does anyone think this is a good idea? Isn't Malte Ubl one of the developer/architect behind it? I could be wrong about this but I remember reading his notes/thoughts on AMP last year.

Malte tweeted about this 8 hours ago actually: "Just heard from the Image Search team that this is an oversight and they'll add the feature! Sorry about that and thanks for the report!" https://twitter.com/cramforce/status/1265688067706245120

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Not for mobile.

Check out Firefox focus for the ultimate zen browsing experience too.

Firefox focus has an emphasis on privacy. That means no history and no bookmarks. No history means no cache. No cache means I have to refetch all resources every time I open it--if this is, say, a list of articles from a limited selection of websites, this is incredibly inefficient and will eat my limited data. No bookmarks or history means I can't use it as a primary browser to open common sites without typing them in--I can save shortcuts to pages in the launcher, but this causes usability issues (can't see entire title or URL; no horizontal view; my folders on Nova launcher are hierarchically organized drawer groups, which doesn't support shortcuts; can't search shortcuts only, results include deep phone search).

Firefox focus is a very good browser for opening links on WiFi or unlimited data when using another app. It's not very good at all at being a primary browser.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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I migrated from Gmail to Fastmail a couple years ago and I have been happy with it. Migrating existing emails from Gmail into Fastmail was easy, as was setting up forwarding from Gmail to Fastmail for all future emails. The hardest part was just updating accounts across the web to use the new email. Since I'm using a custom domain with Fastmail, I can change account emails to things like foo.com@mydomain.com or bar.n…

It's also easy to configure a Fastmail account to fetch messages from a Gmail inbox and even send messages via Gmail, for a seamless transition while updating accounts.

Wow, that's a neat feature. I've seen a lot of Fastmail recommendations on HN but none that mentioned this feature. Thanks for bringing it up. I'm probably far from the only person around these parts that wants to migrate off of Gmail but just hasn't made it a priority yet, and this tip certainly helps.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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>getting back to classic reddit takes a lot of gymnastics http://old.reddit.com still works, though Hope they are sane enough to keep it forever

This isn’t going to be the site that turns up in results, sadly.

Sounds like a job for a userscript / browser extension!

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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> You'll only ever retrieve Google AMP cache results from the Google search page Uh, I keep seeing Google AMP URLs shared on social media, emails, etc etc. Which is quite annoying :(

The AMP team doesn't prefer these URLs shared either: If you click the browser share icon, or trigger the browser native share intent, the origin URL will be shared, not the AMP Cache URL. Only if you explicitly copy the URL bar will the AMP Cache URL be shared. The Signed Exchange spec that AMP has offered sites for a year now allows them to have their own URLs displayed in browsers that support it. In that case, th…

If someone wants to detect whether a website is using amp, what would be a good way to do it?

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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The AMP team doesn't prefer these URLs shared either: If you click the browser share icon, or trigger the browser native share intent, the origin URL will be shared, not the AMP Cache URL. Only if you explicitly copy the URL bar will the AMP Cache URL be shared. The Signed Exchange spec that AMP has offered sites for a year now allows them to have their own URLs displayed in browsers that support it. In that case, th…

Exactly this. As a feature, social media platforms should automatically look up the canonical URL for a linked page.

I’m sure IRC v3 will get right on that. /s

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Interesting. I wonder if usage patterns are a factor here. I also dual carried android/iphone (actually, I still do). I honestly consider the iOS of today the buggiest software I've ever used.

I find that MobileMail is horribly buggy, but there are rarely any bugs in my usage path (Gmail and other Google apps, Safari, Messages, Notes, Camera and Photos, Snapchat, Apollo, GitHub, Apple Music, my bank app, and a few others). What apps do you use most and what's so buggy?

I don't really use too many apps overall. Most of my bugs are in the core OS itself and Safari.

For example, I get hit with this one pretty often (blank page in Safari): https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250740002, Going to reader view and back sometimes fixes it. Force quitting Safari always fixes it.

Fairly often Safari will stop accepting input. Force quitting fixes it. Also often after a pinch zoom, it snaps right back to 100%. This happens on Reddit and HN very often.

Airdrop works maybe ... 5% of the time? Just now I tried to airdrop an image to my wife. My phone said "waiting...", and nothing happened on her phone at all. Tried several times. Nothing. Airdropping to a Mac I think I've gotten to work once or twice.

I get keyboard rotation issues often, like this: https://twitter.com/mattegreer/status/1205698892555120640 (that is my tweet).

I email myself URLs from Safari. But about half the time I have to email myself, wait a few seconds, go into Mail's outbox, and then send the email from there. Otherwise it will just sit in the outbox indefinitely. This is actually true of all emails, but I use the Gmail app now for normal emailing. Added fun, sometimes the outbox doesn't show up until you force quit Mail.

Lots of annoying lack of polish issues. For example, expand an image in messages to be full screen, then return to the thread. Often you get a blank screen, because it has scrolled itself down beyond the messages by about a screen's worth. Sure, just scroll back up to fix it, but I expect a better experience from such an expensive phone.

My previous address (I just moved a week ago) has not been added to Apple maps despite the complex existing for about 2 years now. When you enter the address you get a different address about 10 miles away. Sure, not a bug but a data issue, but all the same from the user's perspective. This caused all kinds of pain. So many people use Apple Maps because they just use the maps app that came with their phone. I got situations like this, https://i.imgur.com/v13VYZM.png, all the time. Package deliveries, appointments at my house, you name it, it was such a mess. I contacted Apple support, they assigned me a support representative. Over Facetime I showed him my address not being in Apple maps and how it is in Google maps. After 2 phone calls with him and many emails, I finally just gave up and accepted it.

These are the ones I can think of quickly. I've also had tons of issues with carplay and many, many third party apps. But it's hard to know who is to blame for these issues.

Over on Android, the only real issue I've encountered is part of the phone understands I have work and personal profiles, and other parts think I don't have a work profile and want me to set one up. Admittedly, this is a pretty annoying bug that does cause some headaches, but it's really the only thing I've hit. Chrome, Gmail, pretty much everything else has been just fine for me.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Even better than blocking AMP is just redirecting to the proper page[0]. [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/amp2html/

Yes, that is even better! Unfortunately it doesn’t work on iOS, or I would have never created my list. Literally the only thing I miss about Android was being able to use browser extensions like uBlock Origin with Firefox on Android. Safari has its built-in content filters but it’s not the same.

Sadly, Ublock Origin is literally the only Firefox extension available on Android atm.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Malte Ubl from Google responded via Twitter:[0] > Just heard from the Image Search team that this is an oversight and they'll add the feature! Sorry about that and thanks for the report! [0]: https://twitter.com/cramforce/status/1265688067706245120

Sounds like classic Google "Oops after oops": https://www.zdnet.com/article/former-mozilla-exec-google-has...

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