Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

In that case, if it comes up, I think California would be looking at your living situation: are you in a temporary living situation, like a long term stay hotel, or did you rent an apartment and move your stuff. Did you forward your mail and change your accounts? Are you visiting home, or are people visiting you in California. What did you actually do after the YC period, etc.

If you're living and working in California, there's not a whole lot of difference in taxation between a part-year resident and a non-resident who happens to be working in the state often; it's more of a problem when California considers you a full year resident and you're actually working somewhere else. For residents, during the period of residency, all income is treated as California source income, but for non-residents, California only taxes income that is actually from a California source (basically earned income from working in California, or gains on property in California).

Even if you're considered a resident during YC, you wouldn't be taxed on non-California source income before you moved in, or after you moved out. It's usually not a problem when you legitimately move; it's more of a problem when you keep a house in California, and visit frequently, and still get your hair cut in California, still vote in California, etc... Or in the case that you move overseas --- there's a presumption for US citizens that an overseas move is not a permanent move, and that when you come back, you'll return to the last state that you resided in, and many states with all-source taxation for residents will make a strong suggestion that you're still a resident, until you establish residency in another state.

Property in CA is speculative and fluctuating. One cannot accept paying taxes based on assessed value. Property market is a volatile market.

It is the equivalent of gambling. Would it make sense if our taxes on the roof over our heads are pegged to Wall Street or stock exchange indices?

When property taxes have to be imposed based on fluctuating speculative assessed value, how would people on fixed income and pensions plan to pay their property taxes at the end of the year?

The assessed values already increase every year. Social security payments are capped. Salaries are based on employment contracts and is capped.

The habit of paying tech workers with stock options that are essentially speculative financial instruments have taken away all realistic financial intelligence one would assume amongst the current generation.

A good economy relies on stability. How does pegging fixed incomes to volatile speculative property value make any sense? It is entirely irrational and illogical. It’s financial illiteracy. You can’t plan for anything and especially not retirement. Such short term thinking.

There is a very pronounced trend of people migrating away from states that are controlled by Democrats for reasons that are potentially ideologically driven policy failures. This raises a a very real and material question for the new host community - do the migrants understand why the situation became so intolerable that they felt they should move?

Migrants bring new ideas so a certain amount of discomfort and change is expected. But judgements and assumptions need to be discussed to work out if there is any merit to them. There is a risk there that shouldn't be glibly ignored.

So I suppose I'd call on you to flesh that out with some alternatives that fit the facts or some challenges to the assumptions rather than just calling a spade a spade. We all know it is a spade. If the spade is inappropriate suggest a better tool instead.

That's not a thing in California. Loans on residential property are non-recourse, so if you owe more than it's worth you just stop paying.

I would argue Bay Area is one of the most diverse places on the planet. More so than Houston.

In the Bay Area we have the following people: white, black, indian, vietnamese, chinese, korean, latinx, middle eastern, russian, polish, european, british, etc.

Whites are a minority at many public schools in the Bay Area..and that is normal here. Yet people on HN love to complain about lack of diversity?

Cons of Houston:

-Traffic is just as bad as the Bay Area if not worse, no?

-Weather

-Far less tech jobs