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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by babuskov »

the_angry_angel wrote: post #426
radium3d wrote: post #403

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The wipers wipe automatically when the camera detects rain on the windshield. If you want to do a window clean you just push the button on the end of the blinker handle on the left of the steering wheel. It's one of the few physical buttons of the 3.

How well does the auto wipe behave on Tesla’s? I’ve owned multiple cars with the feature over the last 10 years - the only one which has ever got it close was a Lexus (quite some time ago). The rest I’ve had and still need to constantly police.

I don't know about other cars, but on my 2014 Passat it works flawlessly. I don't remember ever having to manually touch it.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by babuskov »

xedeon wrote: post #443
benj111 wrote: post #435

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Are you not highlighting another problem. Buttons are always in the same place, I know where they are, I don't have to go hunting for the thing that used to be there, but is now in a sub sub menu, meanwhile you aren't looking where you're going.

Geez people. It's NOT a submenu.. You just move the scroll-wheel up and down or push it to turn it on/off. It's that simple. It's also the default behavior. Here: https://youtu.be/_eyxkzaNZX0 Do you get it now? Taking your hands off the steering wheel involves more steps compared to this.

> Taking your hands off the steering wheel involves...

Taking your hands off the steering wheel has never been a problem. Taking your eyes off the road is.

That being said, if you want to set a certain temperature with analog controls, you still need to look at the number (showing the degrees). Still, in other cars you can see that number all the time, you don't have to go into some menu. There is a dedicated physical button for that one function.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by Erlich_Bachman »

rainyMammoth wrote: post #235
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #229

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I’m not a Tesla owner but it does seem to me that buying in to the company that has single handedly changed the landscape of electric vehicles is a pretty exciting notion. I’d be happier to have a vehicle built on seemingly better principles and support the company even if they’re not perfect. But then I use Linux even though it’s difficult at times because what I am using is more important than any specific flaws it…

It occurs to me that I would equate Mac to Tesla and Linux to a car in which you get full access to the engine and are able to change any piece you want. Tesla is the opposite of Linux philosophy.

Pretty sure there are regulations and just common sense preventing allowing people to hack and tinker with their car software, as that would be very dangerous both for the owners and for the public when such cars would be driving on public roads.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by crististm »

xedeon wrote: post #422
dewski wrote: post #407

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You can use the steering wheel and scroll up or down and you changed the temperature. No fooling around with touchscreen in traffic. It’s way better than any analog system I’ve used across Jeep’s and Audi’s. You can control temperature, fan speed, brightness, and more all from the steering wheel.

Yes: https://youtu.be/kLIBYlgsHis?t=560 That video tutorial is now outdated since there has been many UI improvements, but the steps should still be the same.

I'm more than slightly annoyed that it starts with "choose menu"!!!

The demo person is constantly looking at his screen instead of in front of him.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by kabes »

xedeon wrote: post #420
kaiwen1 wrote: post #413

The depth and breadth of anti-Tesla sentiment in HN threads is curious. It's rarely from owners. By all satisfaction surveys, owners love their Teslas.

It's very intriguing indeed... I always thought the HN demographic is a pretty smart bunch, because I often learn quite a bit from the comment section. I don't get all of the anti-Tesla vitriol, I'm honestly curious what fuels it. It's like all objectivity get's thrown out the window.

It goes both ways. Tesla, just like Apple, has kind of a hype around which polarizes discussions in both ways. While some people criticize them too much I don't understand how they get away with the $6000 scam the FSD kit is. I don't think a less hyped brand would get away that.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by iamsb »

benj111 wrote: post #441
iamsb wrote: post #434

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I was under the impression that tesla lets you adjust most of the settings using voice command, is that incorrect?

Are you suggesting from a safety point of view? Perhaps? I know the latest studies suggest hands free phone calls aren't much better than handed phone calls [1], I don't know if there would be a difference between a conversation and barking out instructions in this context. Id still prefer buttons. [1] https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/international/2016/07/...

I dont know if from safety point of view using voice command is far less unsafe than using buttons. Prolonged conversation on phone (handheld or free) is quite different.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by Traster »

muzika wrote: post #424
kaiwen1 wrote: post #413

The depth and breadth of anti-Tesla sentiment in HN threads is curious. It's rarely from owners. By all satisfaction surveys, owners love their Teslas.

I am also buffled. Teslas make all other feel like a flip phones compared to a smart phone. After owning a Tesla driving an ICE car feels like going back in time. Even for long trips I prefer to take a Tesla, even though I also own 2 gas cars too.

That's because you're not thinking about it from the perspective of the people you're talking about. The only experience that non-Tesla owners have of Tesla is constantly hearing bullshit about "Self-driving" that have constantly been proven untrue, all sorts of stories about quality issues, and a CEO who in many ways is a dick.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

the_angry_angel wrote: post #426
radium3d wrote: post #403

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The wipers wipe automatically when the camera detects rain on the windshield. If you want to do a window clean you just push the button on the end of the blinker handle on the left of the steering wheel. It's one of the few physical buttons of the 3.

How well does the auto wipe behave on Tesla’s? I’ve owned multiple cars with the feature over the last 10 years - the only one which has ever got it close was a Lexus (quite some time ago). The rest I’ve had and still need to constantly police.

I have a fairly new car, one of VW's brands, and at best I twiddle with the sensitivity a bit from time to time, but that's mostly unnecessary.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

jlg23 wrote: post #448
aembleton wrote: post #447

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Don't you find a reversing camera useful? You can see much more than with your rear view mirror.

As an additional feature, yes, not as a replacement. The great thing about actual mirrors is that they don't need power to function and they can be replaced with any other in worst case.

Not needing power is kind of a moot point for an electric car tbh.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by jmchuster »

radium3d wrote: post #380
kerkeslager wrote: post #355

I want a well-put-together electric car that's completely analog from the user's perspective . There's not a single user-facing digital feature I've ever seen on a car that I wanted, and in fact most of them make things worse. Obviously there's some non-user-facing stuff, i.e. all-wheel-drive, which computerization has revolutionized. But any user-facing stuff is just awful. I want an electric car, but I don't want t…

Tesla 3 owner here. Beyond tapping up / down temperature arrows I don't ever need to touch my A/C settings and it remembers my settings when I pick my profile (and soon it will recognize me automatically) so I think it's less annoying than analog setup personally.

i have an analog vehicle, and the car doesn't need to have to remember my settings because they are physically in the same location.
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