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Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by la_barba »

781 wrote: post #294
TimTheTinker wrote: post #94

Apple designers need a new mantra, the age-old adage: "Form follows function." As it is, they're choosing a form ahead of time and compromising on function. The vast majority of users choose Macs because of the great OS and the hardware specs. The "thinness" or "sleekness" is only a nice-to-have, and only if it doesn't require compromise elsewhere.

It is "form" which made macbook THE notebook to have. > The vast majority of users choose Macs because of the great OS and the hardware specs Very wrong. Your average consumer can barely differentiate between MacOS/Windows. The vast majority choose it because it's the best social-status-wise. Which it became because of form. Everybody knows that only poor people have Androids/PCs.

The exact ratio could be argued, but there are customers with varying levels of familiarity with computing tech. Calling people "wrong" is just plain silly.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by bochoh »

With every model that comes out I keep feeling better about my Mid-2015 15" i7 model. Thinking about buying an eBay OEM 1TB SSD and keeping it for the next 5 years at this point. If anyone has a SSD they'd be willing to part with please reach out!

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by sneak »

ericabiz wrote: post #51

We repair these as part of our business, and to be clear, both the keyboards and the screens are failing on these at an alarming rate. iFixit detailed the issues with the screens, which (in Apple's unending quest for "thinness") use a thinner flex cable to connect the display to the rest of the laptop. This thinner cable is prone to breakage, and we are already seeing 2016-2017 MacBook Pros in our shop regularly for…

> We repair these as part of our business, and to be clear, both the keyboards and the screens are failing on these at an alarming rate.

This model came out three hours ago, it looks like.

How can you claim this? Are you making the assumption that they have made no changes whatsoever to the keyboard or hinge?

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by nsxwolf »

welly wrote: post #302
ericabiz wrote: post #51

We repair these as part of our business, and to be clear, both the keyboards and the screens are failing on these at an alarming rate. iFixit detailed the issues with the screens, which (in Apple's unending quest for "thinness") use a thinner flex cable to connect the display to the rest of the laptop. This thinner cable is prone to breakage, and we are already seeing 2016-2017 MacBook Pros in our shop regularly for…

Have one of the new 15" macbook pro with touch bar. My keyboard will never break simply because I never, ever use it. It's awful to type on, possibly the worst keyboard I've ever used. As is the track pad. I have a mouse plugged into it so I don't have to use the track pad. My MBP is basically a compact desktop machine and for that it is great. Fast and responsive.

Did something change regarding the trackpad? MacBook trackpads have always been at the top of the class, far better than any other manufacturer by leaps and bounds.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by ridicter »

stoppergoo wrote: post #461
burtonator wrote: post #450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Loss of MagSafe (this one still hurts). I will NEVER forgive them for this. Jobs was RIGHT when he said this was a major innovation over everyone else. Now Apple is either saying he was wrong or THEY are wrong. They're not BOTH right. My 2015 is the last MBP I will ever buy and it's aging fast... I think it's hackingtosh from here on out. I primarily use Ubuntu but I have to have a Mac as our app runs cross platfor…

Really just the MagSafe is the big difference they lost. Supposedly the keyboard sucks, why don’t they just fix it or go back to the previous iteration. Either way I think these are still the best notebooks you can buy. Ubuntu doesn’t even work right on my dell desktop - it never remembers dual monitor settings, even with Nvidia official drivers installed. When I open my MacBook Air I can just use it without waiting…

For what it's worth, my multi-monitor settings are remembered just fine in Ubuntu 19.04. I _just_ switched from Macbook Pro to Dell XPS 13/Ubuntu, and I couldn't get multi-monitor to work for Ubuntu 18.04, but everything worked out of box for 19.04. But I don't know if upgrading will mess with any legacy config you may have!

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by sprite »

swozey wrote: post #14

These used to excite me because I've desperately needed 32gb and faster procs and used to upgrade every 2-3 years but now I just yawn at MBP releases. I'm so unexcited by everything about this form factor other than the fact that it has OSX. I'm guessing I'll be on my 2016 until I finally bite the bullet and quit using OSX if they don't make a more compelling package to spend my $3k on in the next few years. I don't…

Completely agreed. I’m on my 2016 max spec. Need to take it in for keyboard repair at some point and I’ve barely used the keyboard as I’m using external keyboard and monitors 99% of the time. If they offered the new one with an option to get it without the Touch Bar and old style keyboard that alone would be an instant buy for me.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by 0xFFFE »

m0zg wrote: post #73

As a Vim user: no physical escape key, no deal. I've recently tried working on one of these, and the bar is really annoying for another reason: as you switch between apps it keeps changing right in the corner of your vision, distracting from what's going on on the screen. WTF were they thinking?

This. FWIW, I have mapped some perma nent functions (brightness,volume etc) to the touchbar (you can do that from the preferences), so it doesn't keep changing based on the application in focus. This is a work laptop so I am stuck :(

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by multibit »

I have a 2015 Retina Macbook Pro and it is still fast enough for me. When it fails I will either buy another of the same model or get a PC and put Linux on it. What Apple has done to this product line is awful. At best it's just bad design, at worst it's exploitative.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by la_barba »

neogodless wrote: post #372
skierguy wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought the same thing. Now I'm stuck with a $1500 Asus laptop that barely plays Netflix a year and a half later. despite an 7th gen i7 and 16gb of DDR4. Now I'm saving up for a Macbook Pro again, despite my hatred for the keyboard and touchbar.

Like others said, what? Anything unique about it? Are you running Windows 10? Latest updates? Need any driver updates? (Most drivers are updated by Windows but a few, like graphics/network sometimes benefit from checking yourself.) Are you running a (really) resource intensive anti-virus program? I own an $800 Asus gaming laptop and a $700 Asus ultrabook. One with 7th gen i7 and 16GB DDR. The other with 8th gen i7 an…

I guess "hacker" doesn't really mean what it used to mean. I thought it used to mean people who are curious and like to tinker. Maybe it now means "busy people who have no time to actually tinker but like the idea of tinkering".
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