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Re: Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you resurrect?

#471
Blackberry.

I have never had a more efficient handheld for doing what I need to do most, emali and chat/text messages.

The version with the thumbwheel, enabled me to race through messages. I would expect slack to do great on it as well.

It was not very good for web, apps, games, like my current smartphone is, but I think my current smartphone is clumsy and slow when it comes to message and email.

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Qmodem Not really, except: I was thinking the other day that massive communities like Facebook and Reddit suffer because EVERYONE's allowed in, to an unlimited degree. Everything reverts to the newbie state and every sh*t post can define the threads. Remember dial-up? BBSes had limited lines and you'd have to set your (non-multi-tasking) computer to redial so you could visit your BBS. Moderators, paying members would…

My computer was multi-tasking and had an off-line mail reader. I wasn't on-line nearly that long. (-:

Re: Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you resurrect?

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post #460

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JS had nowhere the popularity it had today. At the time, creating a desktop app in Javascript was not regarded as serious. The reason electron became popular is because so many people from other fields (designers, integraters, students...) learn programming through copy / pasting JS and wanted JS for everything. Hence node. And now electron.

Firefox, Thunderbird (and their spin offs) were all considered serious desktop apps. They all were written with XPFE/XULRunner.

They didn't advertise that much, though. I only learned about XULRunner when I was trying out a keyboard-driven browser (Conkeror). Unlike Electron, XUL wasn't promoted.

Re: Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you resurrect?

#474

Old-school visual basic, but maybe powered by python or another modern scripting language.

May I interest you in something explicitly in that genre? https://anvil.works is VB6, but for the Web, and in Python. No JS frameworks required! We've had data scientists with no Web experience produce MVPs with it in a couple of weeks.

What I miss about VB was the ease with which I could make desktop applications.

Re: Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you resurrect?

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electron eats so much cpu & memory simply because it's still a web browser, it has to support all those 20 years of HTML/CSS history and it was designed to do so for 10s of tabs, so it has a lot of caches and other things. and while javascript is certainly one of the worst choices if you care about performance, it's also one of the best choices if you need to iterate really quickly (which I believe is very important…

Why is JavaScript the worst choice of you care about performance ?

Because the runtimes aren't meant for small, high-performance app, and the language itself doesn't (or wasn't, until recently) give you the primitives necessary for writing high-performance code.

Re: Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you resurrect?

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post #271

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electron eats so much cpu & memory simply because it's still a web browser, it has to support all those 20 years of HTML/CSS history and it was designed to do so for 10s of tabs, so it has a lot of caches and other things. and while javascript is certainly one of the worst choices if you care about performance, it's also one of the best choices if you need to iterate really quickly (which I believe is very important…

Why is JavaScript the worst choice of you care about performance ?

automatic memory management makes certain optimizations very hard to do (you can't make cpu-cache-friendly array of structs)

javascript is very dynamic and V8 has very limited time to make its magic so the optimizations can't ever reach level of rust/c++ (but V8 can do some runtime-only optimizations)

it's very hard to predict performance of given code (and this itself is why it's the worst choice for perf-sensitive code, V8 is moving target, and what was fast yesterday might be slow tomorrow - so basically, it's not worth time and money to actually spend too much time optimizing javascript, it's much better to identify hot spots and do them in rust/c++)

It usually doesn't matter and it's more than fast enough for any kind of scripting, but it's certainly not a good fit for cpu-heavy tasks. I love javascript, to be clear.

BTW: run some node.js code with --print-opt-code so you have an idea how big amount of code is generated even for very simple things.

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Windyws Phone's tile setup is still the best home screen setup for mobile. As I peep at my Android home with pretty wallpaper with acres of bhank space and uninformative icons, I pine for the informative, intelligent WP tiles. Ms Image Composer was unbeatable for digital and web stuff back then. Photoshop was rather clumsy in comparison. As for email clients, I do keep wondering how Thunderbird can be so slow , how i…

With respect to windows phone, I really miss the tiles, the consistency of the metro style gui and other little details, like automatic do not disturb mode while driving or face recognition well before it became mainstream.

Typing on Windows Phone was a delight, for a touchscreen-based keyboard. They had their typing game on point. Now with an Android device, I find myself switching keyboard software often.

Re: Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you resurrect?

#478

Privateer. It’s an older game that I always thought could be a great MMO game these days.

Which one, the bitmap-based-ships version, or the later 3D-based-ships with the Clive Owen acted videos? I know what you mean, though. Elite: Dangerous is good, gorgeous looking, and utterly massive, but very light on RPG elements. EVE is/was too full of people whose enjoyment of the game was predicated on spoiling yours. I haven't played Star Citizen, really not sure if I ever will. (Elite is something I will be goi…

Star Citizen is going to be interesting. I used to think the holy grail of gaming was going to be in-depth RPG elements with crisp and visceral first person experiences. Now it's finally happening in many games, the granularity of gameplay mechanics and detail of real world representations coupled with the need to manage RPG elements and economy and maintainence of your bank account, character loadout and vehicles and all the minute details. It's all just a bit much.

What I have found so far with SC Alpha, which has no RPG elements yet, is that by the time I run around the stores to get my character geared up, requested my ship from it's hangar, boarded and prepared it's loadout, got my destination waypointed, begun and completed the travel to my mission... I am out of time or no longer engaged in the game and I tap out.

Re: Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you resurrect?

#480

Blackberry. I have never had a more efficient handheld for doing what I need to do most, emali and chat/text messages. The version with the thumbwheel, enabled me to race through messages. I would expect slack to do great on it as well. It was not very good for web, apps, games, like my current smartphone is, but I think my current smartphone is clumsy and slow when it comes to message and email.

Old school. I don't think theres enough demand out there to bring it back tbh. Even though there are still many passionate ex-users - and maybe current users. Touch screens have proven to be far superior as they serve both input and output purposes.
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