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Re: The Bullshit Web

#471

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I like this rant, you should go the next step: All you need to 'fix' this is a fast loading news website that gets enough paid subscribers to earn enough margin from subscriptions that you can pay for a news staff, an office, and various overheads. That is a longish way of saying that 99.9% of the overhead in any modern web site can be traced almost entirely to the mechanisms by which that web site is attempting to e…

> That is a longish way of saying that 99.9% of the overhead in any modern web site can be traced almost entirely to the mechanisms by which that web site is attempting to extract value from you for visiting/reading. Well, that and the fact that front-end developers just can't seem to exist without pulling in hundreds of kilobytes, or even megabytes, of JS libraries. You actually don't need all that crap to serve adv…

Enjoy a recent Hacker News discussion of a 404 error page that employed a 2.4MiB JavaScript framework and consumed significant CPU time to display.

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17383464

Re: The Bullshit Web

#472
post #45

Unpopular opinion alert: Maybe the "bullshit" is only bullshit to you, the thorny tech-savvy reader. Maybe businesses have tried the plaintext approach, and their business was improved by adding fonts, stylesheets, API calls, spinners, scripts, high-res images, and god knows what else. Maybe speed improvements are not important beyond a certain point. Maybe 5MB doesn't matter to most people. Maybe micro-optimization…

> Maybe other people making these decisions aren't idiots

Nice joke, I liked it! :)

Re: The Bullshit Web

#473

I've said this before, but it bears repeating: Moby Dick is 1.2mb uncompressed in plain-text. That's lower than the "average" news website by quite a bit--I just loaded the New York Times front page. It was 6.6mb. that's more than 5 copies of Moby Dick, solely for a gateway to the actual content that I want. A secondary reload was only 5mb. I then opened a random article. The article itself was about 1,400 words long…

I like this rant, you should go the next step: All you need to 'fix' this is a fast loading news website that gets enough paid subscribers to earn enough margin from subscriptions that you can pay for a news staff, an office, and various overheads. That is a longish way of saying that 99.9% of the overhead in any modern web site can be traced almost entirely to the mechanisms by which that web site is attempting to e…

> All you need

You say that as if it's easy. "All you need" is to have a product that users what to pay for. But I think, all the various tries and attempts has proven that users aren't really that keen to pay for content online, at scale.

Re: The Bullshit Web

#475

It's not just publishers. My current org uses SalesForce and it's frustratingly slow. Opening a single record takes several seconds as every single interface element is generated dynamically and then populated, seemingly one at a time. When it's finally done loading, you click on a dropdown, and then the dropdown just shows you a loading spinner, as your client asks the server what should be populated in the dropdown…

>Opening a single record takes several seconds

that sounds more like a database delay rather than loading the interface

Re: The Bullshit Web

#477

I see no one mentioned the extraordinary "Reader mode" of Firefox. [0] It's literaly the one feature for which I stopped using Chrome at work. It's just so damn good. For instance, [1] becomes [2] [0] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-reader-view-clu... [1] https://radiobruxelleslibera.com/2018/06/26/intermediated-of... [2] https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/smexxUICwLXKbzEEbLlIPQ_qGc... (that's a screensho…

FYI, the Google Photos link requests a login.

Wow, that's weird. It didn't when I posted it :(

Re: The Bullshit Web

#478
post #463

I see no one mentioned the extraordinary "Reader mode" of Firefox. [0] It's literaly the one feature for which I stopped using Chrome at work. It's just so damn good. For instance, [1] becomes [2] [0] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-reader-view-clu... [1] https://radiobruxelleslibera.com/2018/06/26/intermediated-of... [2] https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/smexxUICwLXKbzEEbLlIPQ_qGc... (that's a screensho…

There are many chrome extensions that do the same thing

Except that my "corporate strategy" doesn't allow installing extensions. So a built-in tool is excellent.

Re: The Bullshit Web

#479

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How much of the data downloaded is actually for typography? Also, browsers have good enough typography by default, which can be controlled with CSS.

Everyone's favorite example of that kind of "brutalist" design: http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/

Bad design because of the low contrast text. There used to be a superior version at https://bestmotherfucking.website/ , but it isn't loading correctly for me on Firefox.

Re: The Bullshit Web

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post #249

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It's heartbreaking.

Shows we are not limited by technology but somehow get distracted by other things.

The "other things" are the short-termism and appealing to the lowest common denominator that go with the pursuit of profit before anything else.
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