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Introducing Surface Book 2

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I have a MacBook Pro and have never used thunderbolt. Why is it a big deal / what do you use it for?

I use a single TB3 port to connect two 4K displays, 100W power and all USB devices all through a single cable

Is it a Macbook ? I haven't seen that it's possible to connect two monitors over one TB3 port on the MBP 16.

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Whenever I fly on business with my macbook/lenovo I am super jealous of surface users, because they can use their machine during take off, as it's classified as a tablet when folded over. Seems minor but it's annoying when you're stuck looking at some crappy tv show or movie for an hour on each flight.

Being able to fold your laptop into a tablet does not classify it as a "small Personal Electronic Device" according to the FAA. It is determined by weight/size. Anything under 2 lbs is considered a PED and is allowed for use during all phases of flight. The Surface Book is too heavy and would not qualify.

Although, flight attendants aren't walking around with scales checking and it certainly looks less conspicuous in folded mode. But, I've successfully used my 4 lb 15" Retina MBP during take off/landing many times without issue. YMMV

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/07/travel/faa-airplane-electronic...

https://www.faa.gov/other_visit/aviation_industry/airline_op...

> Larger PEDs are those the operator has determined weigh more than 2 pounds or are of a size that would impede egress

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There are constant comparisons to the macbook pro here, but Windows will always be a boner killer. Is there a decent Linux desktop that copies macOS' design sensibilities properly yet?

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Nice to see Microsoft bringing new consumer hardware to market. In the meantime, all Surface Pro 4 i7 devices become unusable due to graphic issues. The brilliant concepts by Microsoft are so amateuristically executed. I learned my lesson and am staying away. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/forum/surfpro4-s...

Certainly not all of them... I have used my SP4 as my only PC for several months at a time, doing everything from coding and CAD at work to gaming and Netflix at home and I've experienced no issues.

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Yes, the machines they produce is very high quality and lasts a very long time. Longer than any other laptop I have used. Even if I have used it for quite some time it still feel fresh and performant.

Last I heard MS were having reliability problems with the Surface: "The breakage rate for Microsoft Corp’s Surface devices is significantly worse than for other manufacturers’ laptops and tablets, Consumer Reports said, adding that it was removing its “recommended” designation for Surface products." https://www.reuters.com/article/us-microsoft-surface/microso...

That report is based on faulty data and has been discredited.

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post #411

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Yes, the machines they produce is very high quality and lasts a very long time. Longer than any other laptop I have used. Even if I have used it for quite some time it still feel fresh and performant.

Last I heard MS were having reliability problems with the Surface: "The breakage rate for Microsoft Corp’s Surface devices is significantly worse than for other manufacturers’ laptops and tablets, Consumer Reports said, adding that it was removing its “recommended” designation for Surface products." https://www.reuters.com/article/us-microsoft-surface/microso...

I don't know about the pure statistics, but my experience and other people I know (which actually still run the Surface Pro 1) have had a great experience.

In the past, there was a minor issue that the surface tablet didn't understand that you removed the keyboard. But that seems to be fixed now and it didn't happen that often anyway.

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I bought a SB last year and returned it after a couple of days since it was full of problems with the GPU and pen[1]. The machine was beautiful and both the keyboard and trackpad felt amazing, but even if my unit was defective the pen and tablet experience were poor compared to something like an iPad Pro. Also the display was really sharp in terms of resolution but suffered from an insane amount of ghosting while scr…

When I got my Surface Pro way back when, I had some similar issues. I had to update the drivers for the screen and pen to the official Wacom release instead of the Microsoft release and afterwards it ran amazingly well. It was so nice that I've been eyeing one of those absurdly expensive drafting table style Wacom setups for my desktop ever since even thought I could never justify the price. I've considered upgrading…

>I've been eyeing one of those absurdly expensive drafting table style Wacom setups for my desktop ever since even thought I could never justify the price.

Have you looked at the Surface Studio? I realize it's not super powerful for a desktop, but the price is simply too good compared to the Wacom tables.

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With that price you get "twice as powerful as the latest MacBook Pro. ...up to 17 hours of video playback. That’s 70% more than the latest MacBook Pro."

The “twice as powerful” is almost certainly just about the GPU. The CPU is a U series part versus the HQ series part in the MBP.

The 8th gen U-series i7 in the SB2 is a quad-core, 8-thread beast with TDP-up of 25 watts, 8 MB cache and 4.2 GHz turbo.

https://ark.intel.com/products/124968/Intel-Core-i7-8650U-Pr...

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