The woes of Windows 10 • Hacker News Board

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by badsectoracula » Sun, Feb 05, 2017, 10:19 PM UTC

Arizhel wrote: post #444

badsectoracula wrote: post #285

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How about WindowBlinds? http://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/

This is the first I've heard of it. Just like I said before, if the Windows UI were really that hated and unpopular, this thing would be common knowledge and selling like hotcakes. It isn't. Maybe the word just hasn't gotten out enough, but I doubt it. I do have to say, $9.99 is a pretty good price for this. But this again reinforces my point: if people really hated the Win10 UI that much, a $10 purchase should be no…

WindowBlinds is a very old program - consider it started on OS/2. It used to be very popular back in 90s and 2000s, but its popularity have dropped the last few years. Still, if you find any alternative Windows theme on places like DeviantArt chances are it is made for WindowBlinds. It isn't wildly popular, but it isn't unknown either.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by scholia » Mon, Feb 06, 2017, 5:06 AM UTC

CamperBob2 wrote: post #466

scholia wrote: post #449

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I don't think moving people from one version of Windows to another counts as an increase in market share. And since they gave away a free upgrade for the life of the device, at a considerable cost in terms of servers and bandwidth, it wasn't profiteering either.

And since they gave away a free upgrade for the life of the device, at a considerable cost in terms of servers and bandwidth, it wasn't profiteering either. Pro tip: when a for-profit company does something that appears to be uncharacteristically altruistic... ...Aw, heck, you know what? Never mind. Enjoy the garden.

There were advantages for users and advantages for Microsoft. Both sides won.

As for your "garden", anybody can build their own Windows PC and sell it, without restriction. Anybody can write Windows software, and sell it. Anybody can use a Windows PC and software for any purpose they choose.

If you want to attack people for restrictions, you can find far more of them in other parts of the tech world.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by scholia » Mon, Feb 06, 2017, 5:15 AM UTC

Silhouette wrote: post #454

scholia wrote: post #448

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True. They pushed their luck, and got more than 400 million users onto a new OS. Not only that, it's a much better OS. The only people who actually suffered were the OEMs, who didn't get to sell new PCs to all those people whose old PCs got a new lease of life.

I'm pretty sure all the people who were complaining about being tricked into upgrading don't agree with you.

I'm pretty sure that was a small minority of more than 400 million users. It didn't happen on any of my Windows PCs, nor to anyone I know personally.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by Mithaldu » Mon, Feb 06, 2017, 3:28 PM UTC

E6300 wrote: post #467

dagw wrote: post #465

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It's both.

Okay, so how about a list of games that only support DX12, since that's what's being discussed here?

Did you look at it on a phone and missed the column clearly marking which is which?

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by Arizhel » Mon, Feb 06, 2017, 8:12 PM UTC

badsectoracula wrote: post #471

Arizhel wrote: post #444

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This is the first I've heard of it. Just like I said before, if the Windows UI were really that hated and unpopular, this thing would be common knowledge and selling like hotcakes. It isn't. Maybe the word just hasn't gotten out enough, but I doubt it. I do have to say, $9.99 is a pretty good price for this. But this again reinforces my point: if people really hated the Win10 UI that much, a $10 purchase should be no…

WindowBlinds is a very old program - consider it started on OS/2. It used to be very popular back in 90s and 2000s, but its popularity have dropped the last few years. Still, if you find any alternative Windows theme on places like DeviantArt chances are it is made for WindowBlinds. It isn't wildly popular, but it isn't unknown either.

It sounds like it really doesn't affect the whole Metro UI part of Win10, which is the part I have the biggest complaints about UI-wise.

I don't like the Windows desktop that much (I like the start menu and such, I don't like the look and feel and other things, which is why I'm a KDE fan). But I can deal with it fine; it's the Metro stuff that's really horrible to me.