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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by drawkbox »

ChicagoDave wrote: post #242

TouchBar. Dead on arrival. This is a cute feature, but kind of embarrassing from an innovation perspective. And given the announcement of the Surface Book update and the new Surface Studio, Apple is inconceivably playing second fiddle to Microsoft on the innovation front. The leap ahead on ports is premature at best. I'm sure Apple will hold most of their fan base, but there are going to be quite a few defections me…

I just don't get the appeal of having to look at your keyboard instead of the beautiful screen.

The Microsoft approach with the dial on the screen at least is on the screen. Why do I want to keep looking down to be sure the TouchBar has the keys I expect?

I'll take a look at them and see, but it seems like something that will be used very little and almost annoying.

The locked 16GB memory is a deal breaker for developers, can't even run OSX and Bootcamp for Windows 10 on it. 8GB per VM is not enough and really we need 32GB/64GB to have 16GB/32GB each. Same with their current iMacs, next update better have 64GB+ options or they are making themselves irrelevant to developers and designers without having to spend $6k on an Mac Pro.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by ChemicalWarfare »

webkike wrote: post #329
rayiner wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday. Did we watch the same event? Microsoft introduced a $3,000 desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. It introduced a minor update to the Surface Book that starts at $2,300 with dual-core CPU, only 8GB of RAM, and last-gen graphics hardware. For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen, twice the RAM, and a qua…

Almost everyone I know has a desktop. In fact, the only people I know don't are my parents and people who only need a laptop for email. I happily paid $1,200 for my graphics card, and while that is too much in general there is definitely a demand for high end computing and gaming. Sure, this doesn't really apply but if I worked in a creative position this machine would be a godsend.

I switched to "higher end" beefy laptops. At ~14 pounds it's like a portable desktop type deal :)

Still cheaper than macbook pro btw, which I have that too but mostly use it for ios stuff only.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by bluthru »

blocke wrote: post #24

The touch bar examples shown are a usability disaster. You're going to hide UI from the screen and make me keep looking at the keyboard to find functionality? I stopped looking at the keyboard every 10 seconds when I learned how to touch type. The presenter spent most of his time looking at the keyboard and not the screen. This gimmick will disappear when Apple decides a touch screen is needed to complete the slow me…

>You're going to hide UI from the screen and make me keep looking at the keyboard to find functionality?

You can hit a touch bar item faster than you can position a mouse cursor on a screen toolbar.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by stock_toaster »

smnplk wrote: post #333

I think my next ultrabook is going to be the new Dell xps 13(Kaby Lake) or Razer Blade Stealth. Probably not mac anymore.

I want to like the xps 13 too, but the non touch model (I want the matte screen of the non touch model) has a max config of 8gb board soldered ram. :(

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by wkirby »

vegasje wrote: post #346

Seems like my next laptop won't be a MacBook Pro. Can anyone recommend a good Linux laptop that will offer up to 32gb of RAM and have decent battery life?

Have you tried a MacBook Pro with Linux installed?

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by masklinn »

alirazaq wrote: post #360
untog wrote: post #179

I know USB-C is the future, but it's going to be a long, long, long time before all our devices are using it - particularly external displays. My current Macbook Pro has an HDMI port. I use it every day. I do not want to carry a converter dongle with me everywhere (I did that with my old Air that only had a DisplayPort). To echo other complaints: this is supposed to be a professional machine. I don't care about it be…

I agree that their devices have been getting unnecessarily thin, but their aggressive push towards Type-C is for the best. The industry will follow Apple's lead as usual, and in a year's time most devices will be Type-C compatible. In the interim, I don't see the big deal with throwing an HDMI adapter in your bag unless you carry your laptop around in your hand.

Agreed. Accessory makers aren't going to build the ecosystem if they don't have to, and most manufacturers are apparently too chicken to commit to type C (let alone TB3).

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Post by cdubzzz »

igravious wrote: post #103
matt4077 wrote: post #14

HN is full of people who touch-type F9, I know. But I'm pretty excited about the toolbar. In anything but my primary editor, it will dramatically increase my ability to get by keyboard-only. For 99% of people, the increased discoverability will dramatically increase their ability to use shortcuts. And even the other 1% don't spend all their time within a set of applications small enough to memorize all shortcuts.

Poll: Do you touch type? (by mcobrien 1723 days ago) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3566079 ▲ The Right Way 318 points ▲ Sloppily, without using home keys 210 points ▲ No 45 points

So that explains the reaction here on HN, at least. I had no idea polls are a thing!

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by pfg »

npgatech wrote: post #165

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

> - No iMac update (!!!).

iMacs were refreshed in late 2015. It's typically ~3 years between new generations, often with a hardware refresh somewhere in between. Nothing new here.

> - No monitor announcement.

They partnered with LG (I think?) on a 5k monitor. Sounds like a reasonable replacement for the Thunderbolt Display.

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