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Re: iPhone 7

#471
I'm seriously not comfortable with getting audio through a digital port that has an authentication chip built in. That's HDCP and DRM for music waiting to burst into life.

"Unauthorized playback."

Re: iPhone 7

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post #369

I somehow expected a ton of conversation around the new A10 Fusion chip. After 340+ comments I couldn't find any mention of it (I just did a page search for A10, A10 Fusion). Apple were already ahead with their per-core performance but seems like they have widened the gap even further this time with their version of the big.LITTLE arrangement. Wonder how Qualcomm's next chips will be. From what I heard, 820 will be t…

I would be surprised if Qualcomm only did reference designs after the 820. They were forced to switch to the reference 64 bit ARM design after Apple leapfrogged mobile chipmakers and it really hurt them. They had a lot of trouble with the big.LITTLE architecture and power management which led to 810 power issues which somewhat led to Samsung dropping them for the S6. With the 820 Qualcomm was able to make their own c…

Even I feel that by not doing custom designs they will be consumed by lower priced competition like Mediatek. This piece of info was by someone who claimed works/worked at Qualcomm so I didn't dismiss it initially. We will probably know about it by end of the year.

Re: iPhone 7

#473
post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

> the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move Were any of them? MacBook Air released in 2008. DVD media sales rose YOY 2005 => 2009. Flash video did not decrease in popularity pre-iPhone, it decreased because of the iPhone. > The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been "DVDs are as popular today as they have ever bee…

>> the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move

> Were any of them? MacBook Air released in 2008. DVD media sales rose YOY 2005 => 2009. Flash video did not decrease in popularity pre-iPhone, it decreased because of the iPhone.

And yet most people still need to buy external DVD/Blu-Ray drives. It's been 7 years, and not having DVD drives built into Mac hardware is still incredibly inconvenient.

>> The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been

> "DVDs are as popular today as they have ever been" - someone in 2008

I'm sure someone said that, but I think most people were already moving on to Blu-Ray.

Re: iPhone 7

#474

I was really impressed with the new camera. It seems to me this was a bigger improvement than what they usually do.

I'm still kind of dumbfounded that the 7 Plus has two cameras side-by-side and apparently ISN'T using them to capture 3D images. One would think this would be the best/most obvious application.

They're too close together for that. Your eyes are about 6cm (~2.4in) apart, those lenses look like they're 1cm apart. You need enough distance between them to capture stereoscopic images.

Re: iPhone 7

#475

This is a Nice Device. You can read my other comments lamenting the headphone jack, this comment isn't about that. The screen is beautiful. The two cameras are a clever trick that I hope work as well as advertised -- and their cameras have been historically very good. Splash resistance is overdue , but appreciated. But A10 is a bit of a disappointment [1][2], only as powerful as the A9X. Do they have any new hardware…

Rumors say TSMC is manufacturing most/all of the A10s on their 16nm process [1].

[1]: http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/07/11/apple-chip-builder...

Re: iPhone 7

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post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

I thought they might replace the headphone jack with a USB-C connector. Then they could do the same thing on the MacBook and it'd have two USB-C ports. But instead they chose Lightning, so now we have iPhone headphones and Android headphones. Why did it have to be this way?

We already have Android and iPhone headphones with the jack. The 4-pole connector uses a different standard for the control signals for both.

You can't do anything beyond play/pause or answer calls on iOS with Samsung headphones or vice versa.

Re: iPhone 7

#477
post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

> They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? This confuses me too. The camera wart is ridiculous, and I bet if they made the device just that slight bit thicker they'd have room to retain the 3.5mm jack. The other possibility is that the headphone jack makes water resistance that much more difficult. Maybe they think it's worth it?

The water resistant argument is weak at best. I've had water resistant android phones for years without extra bulk. The problem is solved, all Apple had to do is look.

With that said, I don't actually disagree with taking the headphone jack out. I do think there needs to be a more universal replacement than what they are suggesting though.

Re: iPhone 7

#478
post #6

$160 for the AirPods? My goodness those are expensive.

Too early to say that. Depends solely on the sound quality.

I disagree because to the layman that can easily listen to anything on a 25$ pair of earphones that's a lot. And here we are talking about at least 80% of the population.

Re: iPhone 7

#480

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And to say it was about "Courage". No, we all understand that it's a way for them to make more money selling their horrible headphones and licensing lightning to headphone makers.

While from a financial standpoint this would make sense, most of the guys making the executive decisions at Apple are design focused and oriented. Dropping the headphone jack differentiates Apple even more from its competition, makes the phone sleeker, helps with water proofing, makes the wireless headphones more appealing (which not only act as headphones but also communication devices). This was much more than just…

It definitely differentiates them - into a company that now makes a device that I won't be buying.
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