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Lessons from a 45-year Study of Super-Smart Children

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> "they doggedly pursue single lines of inquiry or development, and possibilities for truly new ideas or techniques" This could easily be attributed to curiosity. Don't dismiss curiosity as something wishy-washy. As I said before, the mindset between hardworking and curious is different. That's not to say pursuing curiosity takes no effort. I'll use a musician analogy to explain. A hardworking musician works hard to…

You seem to be mixing and matching hardworking vs. curious, incremental improvement vs. innovation, and results-oriented vs. process-oriented, all of which are completely different topics. Saying hard work is ego driven while curiosity has some more noble, ineffable motivation is the exact same sort of BS I was decrying before. Hard work can just as well be driven by a sense of responsibility, a desire for more predi…

> Some have earned infamy with that approach, but that's a different topic.

Anyone notable? I'd be interested to read about those... and if the striking of gold was truly random or if it was something else.

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> cperciva He won the putnam once right? > michaelochurch banned for calling Marissa Meyer a nasty name. I'm sure he thinks he is 0.01% in most abilities.

He is in math, see the results of the 1999 USAMO. He's a fantastic writer, too.

What am I looking for? http://www.maa.org/math-competitions/usamo-1999-winners

s of America Mathematical Olympiad

(USAMO) held on April 27, 1999 are as follows:

Reid W. Barton - Arlington, MA

Gabriel D. Carroll - Oakland, CA

Lawrence O. Detlor - New York, NY

Stephen E. Haas - Sunnyvale, CA

Po-Shen Loh - Madison, WI

Alexander B. Schwartz - Bryn Mawr, PA

Paul A. Valiant - Belmont, MA

Melanie E. Wood - Indianapolis, IN

Re: Lessons from a 45-year Study of Super-Smart Children

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Well, that's simply unacceptable to me. A stable six-figure job is failure. If I'm fated to try and fail for the rest of my life to break into the 1 in 10,000, then so be it.

>A stable six-figure job is failure. If you look at the study, only a quarter of the gifted students made it to the 95% income percentile. Being a Genius doesn't make you rich or happy or give you a satisfaction. It makes it more likely you'll have a PhD & produce academic papers.

A lot of them are earning low wages because they have PhD and are professors

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He didn't know what a cartoon was? Or was it a bit of playful retort?

He said the surgeon was "dead serious"... but it must have been an act, right? Sure, maybe he never saw one, but being unaware of at least the dictionary definition of "cartoon" seems highly unlikely.

Child of immigrant parents who didn't let him watch TV, and who socialized with likeminded families.

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> Pioneering mathematicians Terence Tao and Lenhard Ng were one-percenters, as were Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg, Google co-founder Sergey Brin and musician Stefani Germanotta (Lady Gaga), who all passed through the Hopkins centre. Didn't expect Lady Gaga to be listed although it confirms one of my pet theories. It has long been my opinion that success in STEM fields correlates with general high intelligence which will…

I'd put Stand-Up Comedians and Auto-Mechanics in there as well. Though not 'traditionally' smart, Comedians are in a cut throat environment to see the world in a different and funny light. Mechanics, the ones not on meth or in the bottle, also need to use as many senses as possible to diagnose and cheaply fix very complicated machines with unknown histories. I have found that even the ok-to-good ones (and there are a…

I've heard a few comedians say they developed their humour as a shield to deflect attention away from failings in some other part of their life, often academic struggles.

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You seem to be mixing and matching hardworking vs. curious, incremental improvement vs. innovation, and results-oriented vs. process-oriented, all of which are completely different topics. Saying hard work is ego driven while curiosity has some more noble, ineffable motivation is the exact same sort of BS I was decrying before. Hard work can just as well be driven by a sense of responsibility, a desire for more predi…

> Some have earned infamy with that approach, but that's a different topic. Anyone notable? I'd be interested to read about those... and if the striking of gold was truly random or if it was something else.

Mostly thinking the "so noxiously but unusually bad it's briefly popular" type of creative output by people clearly lacking in much grounding or practice in their fields. 'Singers' like William Hung, 'writers' like Gene Ray, 'filmmakers' like Tommy Wiseau, or 'actors' like Robert Coates.

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I'm a 22 year old student and developer. I took a test that said I was gifted as a kid. Since I was very young, I've sensed 'sheer horror' constantly. It's when I see my friends and family, and they describe their aspirations that they won't reach for lack of insight; its the people that get stuck in a local minimum of cognotive dissonance who decide not to seek the global minimum. The coming death of the world is th…

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