Earlier quoted context omitted.
To the contrary, you're not going to get much mileage in court attacking someone's weakest argument. On the internet, however, mocking someone's weakest argument is fair game.
It may be "fair game" in that you won't get hauled off by the Internet police, but it certainly doesn't work to convince people.
US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program
461–470 of 579 posts
Re: US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program
#462Reading the report leaves me slack-jawed considering my own history. My great uncle was an officer of the Geheime Feldpolizei, a secret state security organization developed to combat native resistance against Nazi occupation during WWII. His job was to infiltrate and destroy Maquis French and their supporters (the resistance). The means they used were mass betrayal, example executions, torture, even the wholesale de…
We loaded up air planes with incendiary bombs and flew over Toyko purposely igniting their wooden homes to purposely cause a firestorm that killed .1 million people in a single night. Pretty fucking brutal.
Pooring ensure up a guys ass is pretty bad, but we instead of letting our B-52's bomb Taliban villages into nothing, we use drones.
Progress is slow, but it's happening.
Re: US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program
#463Earlier quoted context omitted.
And how shall we proceed?
A start would be to stop looking to someone else to show you the way. What have you tried? Working in groups is what makes it so damn easy to discredit, re-brand and dilute movements. Protesting? C'mon, we're way past the useful application of protesting.
Re: US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program
#464Other than tossing out some words, I fear most of you are going to do nothing and continue voting for the same ol' status quo crooks and cronies.
Re: US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program
#465What is scarier: that US gov has been lying about this or that US gov genuinely doesn't know what's going on within its agencies?
Re: US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program
#466Earlier quoted context omitted.
It may be "fair game" in that you won't get hauled off by the Internet police, but it certainly doesn't work to convince people.
Wasn't trying to convince anyone of anything. Was mocking a sentence I thought was ridiculous.
Re: US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program
#467Hope the report will help Americans to find the answer of Why they hate us?
What do you say to the organizations that massacre entire villages and towns in their own county, make regular suicide and car bombs to blow up crowded and high traffic places (in M.E., Russia, China), dismember their young for stealing bread or disobeying, killing colleagues for not being Muslim enough?
They have plenty of reasons to hate us, we are not like them, but it looks like they do fine in spreading destruction and agony in their home as well.
Re: US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program
#468Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do we have figures about how many people have been tortured? Even if 1 is too much for me, many people think in terms of "It's ok because it's a remote risk".
39 people were subjected to "enhanced interrogation techniques", according to this report.
Re: US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program
#469> Interrogation techniques such as slaps and "wallings" (slamming detainees against a wall) were used in combination, frequently concurrent with sleep deprivation and nudity. Records do not support CIA representations that the CIA initially used an "an open, non-threatening approach," or that interrogations began with the "least coercive technique possible" and escalated to more coercive techniques only as necessary.…
I wonder when the UN will stand up and impose trade bans on the US for such deeds.
Re: US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program
#470Earlier quoted context omitted.
>"The Republicans have issued a rebuttal. I assume this means they support torture." >"Clapper has issued a rebuttal, claiming that the report isn't neutral. I assume he also supports torture." >"The White House attempted to keep this report from coming out...I assume that the White House supports torture..." Politics is a dirty, complex game. If you treat every news event as black and white like this, you will form…
Torture is a cut and dry moral issue; inflicting pain on a person willfully for an extended period of time is not acceptable behavior, nor is this fact a matter of politics. The people/groups I listed in my original comment have placed themselves on the wrong side of this moral issue, and history will judge them harshly as such. Obama may have issued an executive order when he entered office, but attempting to block/…