Let's bring this across the pond. I've taken to speaking different languages and just trying to confuse them. If you're going to call me fifty times a day, you're going to get messed with.
France to ban unsolicited telemarketing calls
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Re: France to ban unsolicited telemarketing calls
#462Just ban all out of country calls, and I think the phone network would be fixed.
Re: France to ban unsolicited telemarketing calls
#463Just ban all out of country calls, and I think the phone network would be fixed.
Italy already did that, guess how it's working
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#464Re: France to ban unsolicited telemarketing calls
#465Great idea! Telemarketers have ruined the phone network for me. I haven't answered an unknown call for the past 10 years, which sometimes means I miss important ones. 99.9% of all calls are an attempt to get money, and the 0.1% that's a dentist appointment, a friend that changed numbers or whatever become collateral damage. A ban is the right idea but I wonder how they can handle it, logistically. I think there needs…
In Spain we have something called "Lista Robinson" (in Sweden exists something similar, called "NIX-registret") which are basically opt-in lists where you can enter your phone number, then once the new lists been distributed, the telemarketing companies cannot call you, if they're doing things properly. If they call anyway, you just mention you're on the list, they hang up, and remove your number from the list they h…
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Re: France to ban unsolicited telemarketing calls
#466Re: France to ban unsolicited telemarketing calls
#467Earlier quoted context omitted.
The best technical solution I've seen is a spam review fee that turns into a reward and charged to the next closest originating peer. For example say you get a spam call. You notify your service provider and pay $10 to have them review the call recording to verify that its spam. An employee listens to the call and determines that it is, in fact, spam. You get a $100 reward for reporting spam and your service provider…
its unlikely going to be worth the costs involved for the telco to do this reviewing. perhaps AI systems and other filters could be used but ultimately its tons of time needed because audio takes time to play. a lot of cases will be clearcut instabans but for the ones that are not it requires all of them to be reviewed with _some_ depth and then some with much more. its also prone to mistakes which is another process…
Why? They get paid $10 every time spam is reported regardless of the outcome. Trained staff listening at 3x speed with AI assistance could classify 3 obvious spam calls in a minute. If you can't turn $1800/hr per employee into a profit center I don't know what to tell you. That's a lot of money to cover for extreme outliers.
Eventually the obvious spam callers would all quit and the volume would reduce to a handful of borderline cases. So the spam department wouldn't make a lot of money anymore, but the volume would be so low it would barely register.
Re: France to ban unsolicited telemarketing calls
#468Good to hear they are catching up.
Re: France to ban unsolicited telemarketing calls
#469Great idea! Telemarketers have ruined the phone network for me. I haven't answered an unknown call for the past 10 years, which sometimes means I miss important ones. 99.9% of all calls are an attempt to get money, and the 0.1% that's a dentist appointment, a friend that changed numbers or whatever become collateral damage. A ban is the right idea but I wonder how they can handle it, logistically. I think there needs…
> I wonder how they can handle it,
In Norway there is a list [1] run by the state registry service (Brønnøysundregitrene). Any individual can add their phone number to the list.
Anyone cold calling is required to check that list at least once a month and there are fines for calling someone on the list.
[1] https://www.brreg.no/om-oss/registrene-vare/om-reservasjonsr...
Re: France to ban unsolicited telemarketing calls
#470Earlier quoted context omitted.
Uh, it's a representative democracy... The government isn't some nebulous mythical gorgon, it's supposedly responsive and representative of the people's needs. Also I assure you, scammers aren't honestly filling out I-9s and W-4s adding up all the Western Union receipts. They're scamming the IRS as well
> it's supposedly responsive and representative of the people's needs. It's damn near proven that the US representative branch doesn't give a shit about its electorate, within margin of error. https://www.jstor.org/stable/43281052
...and it's our job to fix that...
yours and mine.