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So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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I spent my whole childhood without computers and a good chunk of my teenage years without stable internet connection. Now, I have both, but due to the state of the internet, I'm returning to my old routine: A load of books to learn from and hopefully finding some time to apply the knowledge.

Don't give up yet. Lemmy is good, but not enough people on there for network effect to kick in yet. I think once the enshittification gets too bad for even the average person, people will look for alternatives, and old style forums will return. Although with all the ID verification, those forums might end up on Tor or something.

Lemmy dbzer0 (one of the big instances) has a lot of stuff.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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I am hard put to defend reddit and a lot of the things they do ... but I can attest, from personal experience, that scrapers are a huge problem for anybody trying to keep a complex site working. Withholding the display of the comments will significantly reduce the database traffic needed to satisfy a request; I can see why they would want to do that for anonymous readers.

I don't understand why sites like reddit need to do any work on (unauthd) GET. They are not instant messaging platforms, they are forums. You can live with a ~1-2-5 minute delay on forums. So POSTs (from logged in users) append to a queue, and a worker does work at regular intervals, creates the HTML and that gets sent to a cache + distributed to a CDN if needed. There's no need to do work on unauthd GETs for a forum…

Write this software and post a Show HN

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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The response to that should be to restrict the events calendar and similar dynamic functionality, not to restrict the 99% of users who are accessing what should be 100% staticly cached HTML.

Of course, the _actual_ response to that should be to make the AI companies somehow liable for the massive disruption they caused (and still cause). But alas, we can't have nice things.

There's no evidence this massive DDoS attack is related to AI.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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As a heavy reddit user since the glorious Digg times... what's up with this "old reddit" thing? I vaguely remember some problems with new reddit initially. But the "new" frontend looks nice to me in all aspects. What am I missing?

for starters when I browse reddit in new interface after short scrolling it tells me to install app and I can';t read further comments, no such issue with old.reddit

though I have also Continuum client with my own API key in phone, but for some google results it's just faster to read it in browser than opening the app

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Powertripping mods have always been a problem with Reddit ever since they had user-created subreddits. The real problem is that Reddit has been very two-faced with what their expectations on moderators are. If we take "the purpose of a system is what it does[0]" then Reddit moderators exist primarily as unpaid volunteer employees, paid in control over the narrative of certain communities. The flipside of powertrippin…

>Actually, that big stink people made over killing third-party Reddit client access was all powermods, because doing your job as a moderator is nigh-impossible with the standard Reddit tools. That's why we had so many subs get blacked out in protest, an I sort of got the impression it was because of that back when it happened. But when I say it out loud everyone protested reddit because the moderators didn't have wha…

How would the tool tell the difference between criticizing Israel in /r/israelisawesome and criticizing Israel in /r/worldnews?

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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I refuse to log in to Reddit, deleted my account ages ago. And now on mobile it places an unclosable pop-over asking me to log in to continue reading. So now I only read things on desktop. Would like to stop using Reddit all together but sometimes it is genuinely useful to read some human answers, although since LLM’s train on the data I can get a lot of the same info that way at least.

Try "RedReader". You can use reddit without the account.

Probably not for long. If the site requires an account, so will the accessibility app

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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I closed all my Reddit accounts after they instantly shadow-banned my 8+y main account after I shared a single gdrive link to reply to a user with actual data. I've been appreciated as contributor in various places for being helpful, thorough and precise, but Reddit doesn't care to have good content. It's simply not a good discussion platform (and the UI sucks).

Mods are the death of reddit like I've been saying for at least 10 years. Shadow ban after shadow ban, the dopamine rush a bad mod gets from shadow banning someone must be amazing. It's way too easy for them.

Mods can't shadow ban. That's done by site-wide automated systems. Reddit euphemistically calls it the "spam filter"

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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If you were using old.reddit.com then presumably you were viewing popular by default? In which case you have some alternatives: https://safereddit.com/ https://lemmy.today/?dataType=Post&listingType=All&sort=TopD... OR https://old.lemmy.world/?listingType=All&sort=TopDay https://piefed.social/ (more or less the same as above)

I suggest https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/

It's one of the bigger instances, run by the people from r/piracy who were removed after the API changes (btw this means Reddit condones piracy, someone tell Nintendo), and without political bullshit

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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That would require the people making their interests known, which would never happen in practice. The reality is that most representatives are well-intentioned and try to do the job in good faith, but only the wealthy/corporations ever give them the time of day to tell what their interests are. The representative can only work with the information they have available. When do you think the last time the average Joe t…

"Never happen in practice" is objectively false given the civil rights wins of the past century. While incomplete they were real, and real change followed. Starting with the premise that it's impossible won't improve society.

Maybe you have a certain story in mind, but the civil rights wins that everyone remembers were wins only after the people waited too long to make their interests known to their representative, completely boiled over, and threw themselves directly onto the fire to compensate. That is quite different to having regular conversations with their representative throughout the normal course of their lives so that the representative could regularly do their job with the full understanding of the people's interests.

You've pointed out something real, but it does not appear to be within the scope of our discussion.

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