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Post by stetrain »

appden wrote: post #25

I’m fully bought into the Apple ecosystem, and I’ve had Teslas for 8 years and we currently also have car that supports CarPlay. The CarPlay interface is overall far inferior, especially with navigation. First of all, searching for destinations is terrible on CarPlay compared to Tesla! Even worse, Apple didn’t even add multi-touch support to CarPlay until iOS 26, and the vast majority of cars (including ours) don’t s…

I find Tesla’s interface to be inferior as soon as you want to use an app they haven’t built. Like my podcasts app. Or receiving / replying to a WhatsApp message. Even the built-in text message support can’t handle replying to a group text.

Personally I’d stick with Tesla’s nav and use CarPlay for media and messaging, and that’s the optionality and user choice I think this post is trying to get at.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by macguillicuddy »

massysett wrote: post #451

I think CarPlay is evidence of failure. My aim is device independence. In the old days, to print I had to hook up my printer to a computer. To print from a computer on the network, I needed a print server. I had to administer that. Now the printer itself hooks to the network, which is far superior. I have an older thermostat which allows me to program vacations directly on the unit. This is superior to the newer ther…

I agree that devices should work independently. But I believe the fundamental baseline should be open interoperability. Yes, the dishwasher should allow a delayed start from the machine itself. But it should also have secure yet open interoperability so other authorised systems that care about the dishwasher can interact with it. I think there's ultimately a user experience benefit. I'm familiar with my phone, its UI paradigms etc. If I (or my gran) can use the dishwasher through an interface or voice assistant we're already familiar with then that's a win. Especially if the form factor of the device itself makes it challenging to deliver a great and intuitive interface in-situ.

In this regard CarPlay is evidence of success - a sufficiently interoperable car that allows users to bring their own context and ecosystems.

CarPlay is only evidence of failure if your expectation is that the car should provide a comparable ecosystem to Android or iOS - one that must also somehow follow you in your pocket when you leave the car.

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Post by criddell »

artisinal wrote: post #278
jnaina wrote: post #114

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Same here. CarPlay is in the top 10 features for my next Car. Even for my older 911 which I bought second hand, the first investment was a Pioneer head unit with CarPlay.

In my opinion, anything older than a 996 shouldn’t have an infotainment screen. Looks very out of place. Just use a phone mount for navigation or use audio navigation through a period correct radio.

There doesn’t have to be a big screen.

Porsche sells head units with car play for their cars going back to the 1960’s. I think they look great.

https://vehicle-accessories.porsche.com/prod/pag/Vehicle/Acc...

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Post by artisinal »

Telaneo wrote: post #435
artisinal wrote: post #430

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I was responding to: > vastly superior and convenient way to view the same map you can see on your iPhone. The map and the interface is vastly superior on my phone. Google Maps on iOS is barely usable while connected to CarPlay. You shouldn’t operate anything while driving. Do that before you leave.

> The map and the interface is vastly superior on my phone. Google Maps on iOS is barely usable while connected to CarPlay. When browsing? I guess. When driving? I have a hard time agreeing with that. > You shouldn’t operate anything while driving. Do that before you leave. Exactly, so you not being able to do anything with Google Maps on the Carplay screen doesn't matter, since you don't need to do anything through…

When the wireless CarPlay connects I can’t use Google Maps on my phone screen anymore. It’s one of the reasons I dumped it for other navigation apps. I also disliked the Google Maps spam I got on CarPlay while using other navigation apps. Very intrusive.

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

titanomachy wrote: post #354
rkangel wrote: post #346

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The big thing for me is that the lifetime of a car is a lot longer than the technology development lifecycle. I just bought a 10 year old Toyota estate (station wagon). It's got a reasonable screen and Bluetooth implementation etc. But I'm never going to want to use the built in navigation because it's just not as good as what my phone will do. And the audio integration isn't as sophisticated as it might be - I have…

I’m sure the car manufacturers would much prefer if you updated your car as often as you do your phone.

Make them cheaper and I’m game.

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Post by Telaneo »

artisinal wrote: post #464
Telaneo wrote: post #435

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> The map and the interface is vastly superior on my phone. Google Maps on iOS is barely usable while connected to CarPlay. When browsing? I guess. When driving? I have a hard time agreeing with that. > You shouldn’t operate anything while driving. Do that before you leave. Exactly, so you not being able to do anything with Google Maps on the Carplay screen doesn't matter, since you don't need to do anything through…

When the wireless CarPlay connects I can’t use Google Maps on my phone screen anymore. It’s one of the reasons I dumped it for other navigation apps. I also disliked the Google Maps spam I got on CarPlay while using other navigation apps. Very intrusive.

> When the wireless CarPlay connects I can’t use Google Maps on my phone screen anymore.

Huh. That doesn't happen with wired carplay (at least for me), and I can't see why this would be different.

> I also disliked the Google Maps spam I got on CarPlay while using other navigation apps.

I haven't noticed that either for that matter. When you say 'spam' here, what exactly do you mean?

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Post by pipe2devnull »

IgorPartola wrote: post #217

I am clearly in the minority here but I have driven cars with and without CarPlay and honestly do not care whether a car has it. I use my phone for navigation and mount it such that when I look at it I am not taking my eyes off the road. I find this to be far better than having to look down at the center of my dashboard but CarPlay navigation UI via Google Maps or Waze also works fine so it’s not a huge difference. R…

When I put in directions on my phone it gives me turn by turn directions in the gauge cluster so I don’t have to look at the center screen as often

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Post by bluGill »

al_borland wrote: post #140
bluGill wrote: post #136

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I thought I would be okay and bought a GM. I regret it because of the lack of android auto.

I hope you made your dissatisfaction known. Otherwise I’m sure they see your purchase as a success, validating your decision. Make sure they know you’ll never by another GM car.

There is no useful way to complain to GM.

However making sure everyone knows on various forums is a much more powerful way in the long run. It will take more time, but I'm not alone.

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