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Re: Siri AI

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Post by bandrami »

rafaelmn wrote: post #384
s3p wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jokes aside, I have been using siri to control my smart home and set my alarm for nearly ten years now. I haven't really had problems with basic stuff like this.

>Siri turn off the main light in children's bedroom 100% of the time turns of all the lights in children's bedroom. Alexa has no problem with this. Disappointing to say the least. Completely useless, I was going to get an Android this year on upgrade cycle. Will check this out first.

I'm too paranoid to ever want a home snitch device, so I'm not their target audience, but it always struck me that if it took even ten minutes to debug a problem like that it completely destroys a year's worth of time allegedly saved compared to just walking over to the room and hitting the switch.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by ezst »

prathamtharwani wrote: post #452
lucaspiller wrote: post #439

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Google did the same bullshit on Android. With Google Assistant (old assistant) I could say "Hey Google, play daft punk" and it would start playing Daft Punk on Spotify. With Gemini (new assistant) it says "sorry I cannot play music, but here are links to services where you can find Daft Punk albums". Fortunately at the moment you can still toggle between them. I guess not for long though.

I just tried "Hey Google, play daft punk" with the new Gemini assistant and it works as expected?

People having extremely opposite user experiences with LLMs. How could this be?

Re: Siri AI

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Post by [deleted] »

cjonas wrote: post #460
losteric wrote: post #457

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> Why would I pay for services that will be enshiftified when I can build an app that does exactly what I want in an afternoon. When we talk about “the market”, the customer base, remember it’s a market that typically doesn’t know how to or care to even install an adblocker.

I don't see any mention of "the market" anywhere in this thread. I'm just talking about the ability for a motivated user to solve real problems with these tools. Right now these solutions are available to software developers but over time it will become approachable to more users

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Re: Siri AI

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Post by fruit2020 »

zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

Booking and renting is certainly possible, they just need your auth credentials

Re: Siri AI

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Post by kristianc »

zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

An alien landing on earth consuming Apple marketing content would be under the impression that humans did nothing but organise hikes to Big Sur with their friends.

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Post by barrenko »

merlindru wrote: post #111
wxw wrote: post #109

I strongly believe Apple can win the consumer AI space. They have incredible distribution and hardware. They just haven’t executed at the application layer yet.

what's worrisome is that they continue to fail at it. it's one thing to say "we're still hashing things out". it's another to parade around Image Generation features that are obviously widely not-cared-for and oftentimes actively disliked Apple cares greatly about their brand yet this has hurt their brand like nothing else in the past decade

Apple currently probably has a longer planning horizon than the catholic church.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by pprotas »

No mention of making my homepod mini “Truly helpful”, so I’ll stick to just sticking timers, I guess.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by zmmmmm »

idle_zealot wrote: post #442
zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

Even the aspirational use cases you're talking about basically are just "digital secretary." There's a massive problem with that even if the models end up being capable in the future. The value of a secretary is that you know them, they know you, and you trust them to do things right. There are stakes if they don't. No company can provide that as a service at scale for everyone without it being a disaster. Not becaus…

it's an interesting question if any of the AI companies would be willing to step up and absorb the risk ie: to give the AI agent a "stake".

eg: if my booking is wrong, they will cover the cost and compensate me. It would sort of just come down to buying premium travel insurance for everyone that uses it. And insurance for anything else they do. It has to be one of two things - they either believe the risks are worth it (so then there should be a financial model that can absorb the cost of insurance to do it), or in fact, the risks are too great. At some point, if they keep offering the tech on a "use at your own risk" basis, they are implicitly communicating that they themselves think the risks are too great - so YOU shouldn't trust it either.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by Computer0 »

wlesieutre wrote: post #440
dhosek wrote: post #356

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few years ago, the ability to do anything other than a timed walk on my watch with Siri broke. I used to be able to do things like say, “start a 3 mile walk” or “start a 200 calorie walk” and then the latter stopped working and then the former stopped letting me do non-integer numbers of miles and then nothing at all and now I cannot do anything other than start an unmeasured walk or a timed walk with siri and I’m…

“Shuffle playlist _____” broke a few years ago too. Now it consistently takes that to mean “Play other music similar to the playlist.” If I specify “Shuffle playlist _____ in Apple Music” somehow that works right, even though it’s still using Apple Music in the first example when it plays the wrong music. We’ll see if they managed to unfuck it with the new Siri update, or knowing LLMs perhaps they’ll make it non-dete…

I can’t even get hey siri, pause. Hey siri, play. To start and stop music and podcasts to work consistently
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