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Re: Dropbox CEO Drew Houston to step down

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Account age is a legit parameter when evaluating the worthiness comments especially how easy it is for bots to make comments now.

They seem pretty human to me.

Probably because I am.

But it doesn't matter. Another thing that's worse about HN is that you can now accuse anybody who posts things you dislike of being a bot.

It's unsurprising that Sean, who posts several times a day, is eager to dismiss my criticism of non-value-addding posting addicts.

Re: Dropbox CEO Drew Houston to step down

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And yet, it somehow has significantly better conversations than most places online. Maybe on par with reddit 10-15 years ago. It's frankly depressing how few places there are to have quality conversations, particularly for general tech.

Candidly, I'd argue that it doesn't.

It has a style that allows people to _pretend_ they're having substantive conversation, but it's mostly just people blathering in a distinct style without ever listening.

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Yes, but no one is really complaining about "not enough kids." They are complaining about not enough kids of their preferred skin tone . So they see immigration as an exacerbation.

I can't help but agree here. "Declining birth rate in the western world" just comes across as a dog-whistle to me. I guess I kind of only alluded to this myself with my response that they were being "weirdly cagey", and I wish I had been more direct like you were willing to, so thank you for this

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Re: Dropbox CEO Drew Houston to step down

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I can't help but agree here. "Declining birth rate in the western world" just comes across as a dog-whistle to me. I guess I kind of only alluded to this myself with my response that they were being "weirdly cagey", and I wish I had been more direct like you were willing to, so thank you for this

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Your juvenile insult is not appropriate here.

The world population has been increasing steadily and shows no sign of slowing down.

The dog whistle in question is the inordinate concern that certain groups show for the population of the "western world" specifically, which is not-so-secret code for white babies specifically.

Re: Dropbox CEO Drew Houston to step down

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If there are any Dropboxers here (drew—I emailed you a few weeks ago, but I imagine you're busy): I went to prison for 18 months, my digital and physical life was stolen from me: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45451567 applies to my Dropbox account (and Apple but separate problem); I just received the "your account will be going bye-bye" email. I have very important dead-mom-club stuff in there, and support is…

>I went to prison for 18 months, my digital and physical life was stolen from me This is wild phrasing.

I actually don't think you are commenting about the casualness, but the usage of the term "stole". Correct me if I'm wrong.

I can say I view my own time in jail very transactionally and I have run into many people that don't understand that. They expect a sob story about how you were innocent, or how you turned your life around.

I don't think I'd ever say my life was "stolen" from me, but it definitely feels that way in the moment. Having a bunch of armed people come and throw you in a cage certainly leaves you with a new perspective to process.

Re: Dropbox CEO Drew Houston to step down

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And they had Paper, which was an excellent product (I was at Dropbox a decade ago; we all used Paper constantly and it was great) very close to what Notion later became. They never got it over the hump to wider PMF — like you say, a failure of product and of enterprise execution. (Given that it was so close to Notion, I think Paper is one area where the product vision was on to something good; but they didn't succeed…

Another issue: Paper was tied to your Dropbox account. From Dropbox's perspective, this sounds great. Accounts become more useful and valuable. The addressable market of a Dropbox account grows! Plus, everyone has a Dropbox account already, right? Unfortunately, it turns out that business customers generally don't deploy Dropbox wall-to-wall. It's expensive. Not all employees need file sync. A Dropbox account ends up…

I'm not sure I ultimately buy that Dropbox is expensive - for one thing, Notion now charges basically the same as Dropbox, and you don't even get file sync in the deal.

I can definitely believe that that was an objection customers had, though. I just suspect that what it really meant was another way of expressing that there wasn't PMF - if the PMF were there, they'd have willingly paid, just like they do now for Notion or Slab or what have you.

And yeah, there was definitely some energy going into trying to tie the products together more (putting Paper docs in your Dropbox folders) - and when that finally shipped it sadly made the Paper experience worse, not better.

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