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Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Post by donkyrf »

qsera wrote: post #454
donkyrf wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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>immense right-wing propaganda machine.. I see that the left-wing (what ever that means) does not have access to this machine, for some reason...

right-wing ideologies are meant to augment concentrated wealth and power, which means there are incentives for the rich and powerful to create right-wing propaganda machines.

left-wing ideologies are meant to create diffuse wealth and power, which means there's no incentive for individuals to create such propaganda machines.

This is why there are enormous amounts of right-wing media, and almost no left-wing media in America.

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Post by icase »

idle_zealot wrote: post #281
omcnoe wrote: post #264

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I’d honestly expect to see regulatory intervention if they tried this.

In a better time I would expect the government to step in a acquire this fundamental service and fund it with tax money. Right now? The only intervention I would expect is a massive subsidy to pay Google to keep providing it, while also letting them continue to spy on everyone's mail (which is a crime, but not if the mail is on a computer, I guess).

oh yes, government-run email.

what could possibly go wrong

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Post by bigfatkitten »

vel0city wrote: post #401
eks391 wrote: post #396

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Google has support?? How did you find it, and what other services besides gmail does it cover?

Note they said "workspace". This has some level of support baked in, as this is the paid enterprise product. https://knowledge.workspace.google.com/admin/support/contact...

They call it support, but that’s not the term I would use.

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Post by platevoltage »

ipaddr wrote: post #338
donkyrf wrote: post #291

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How can we end up blaming the right wing when the propaganda machine is bigger on the other side and even bigger on the government side It's always someone else

Ah yes, the left wing propaganda machine. On one side you have Fox and Newsman, on the left you have what? Hasan Piker's Twitch channel? Zeteo maybe? Who are we talking about?

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Post by platevoltage »

rc_kas wrote: post #438
Night_Thastus wrote: post #177

People complain a lot about Gmail, but honestly I kind of understand Google's plight here. They've essentially gotten roped into maintaining a huge chunk of internet infrastructure, for free . If they ever shut it down the whole world would end up rioting because it's so widely used. But it's expensive, complicated and time-consuming to maintain - and both a source of and recipient of endless waves of spam and scams.…

I use proton, but it is not better than gmail. The user interface is explicitly inferior, and that is the main thing I care about.

I would totally use it if they didn't charge for IMAP.

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Post by qsera »

donkyrf wrote: post #461
qsera wrote: post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>immense right-wing propaganda machine.. I see that the left-wing (what ever that means) does not have access to this machine, for some reason...

right-wing ideologies are meant to augment concentrated wealth and power, which means there are incentives for the rich and powerful to create right-wing propaganda machines. left-wing ideologies are meant to create diffuse wealth and power, which means there's no incentive for individuals to create such propaganda machines. This is why there are enormous amounts of right-wing media, and almost no left-wing media in…

So all the media that Trump calls "Fake news" is not-left wing?

> left-wing ideologies are meant to create diffuse wealth and power, which means there's no incentive for individuals to create such propaganda machines.

Maybe this was true at some point.

But I think today the left ideologies are used largely as a front, by the people who just want to "augment concentrated wealth and power". I think these are the truly malicious people, because they hide behind the a large mass of gullible population.

They use these shallow "left" idelology to mobilize the masses, and they are shallow exactly because it have to be relatable to the least common denominator. So no nuance, no balanced perspectives, no risk/benefit consideration. Anything that sounds nice on the surface will do (even when it is truly evil after a moments consideration)...

So that is why I think you are wrong..

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Post by idle_zealot »

icase wrote: post #462
idle_zealot wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a better time I would expect the government to step in a acquire this fundamental service and fund it with tax money. Right now? The only intervention I would expect is a massive subsidy to pay Google to keep providing it, while also letting them continue to spy on everyone's mail (which is a crime, but not if the mail is on a computer, I guess).

oh yes, government-run email. what could possibly go wrong

Why is this inconceivable? I don't know where you live, but the Post Office is extremely cheap and reliable around here. What drives you to pretend that states can't provide services to their people?

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Post by dotancohen »

redsocksfan45 wrote: post #297
dotancohen wrote: post #172

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Can you post an example? Thank you.

Every payday loan company, the "we buy houses for cash" companies, rent-to-own companies, title loan companies, the entire buy-now-pay-later ecosystem, the timeshare industry. Seriously dotancohen, get your people under control.

Who are "my people" that need to be got under control?

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Post by eviks »

Night_Thastus wrote: post #177

People complain a lot about Gmail, but honestly I kind of understand Google's plight here. They've essentially gotten roped into maintaining a huge chunk of internet infrastructure, for free . If they ever shut it down the whole world would end up rioting because it's so widely used. But it's expensive, complicated and time-consuming to maintain - and both a source of and recipient of endless waves of spam and scams.…

> But it's expensive, complicated and time-consuming to maintain

But it's also a valuable pot of data honey you can boost your wonder AI with, so where is the plight?

> For free

And without revenue sharing

> have any kind of support.

Check, not having support is what Google is famous for

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