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Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons

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Re: Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons

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Post by jcgrillo »

joe_mamba wrote: post #457
jcgrillo wrote: post #415

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That seems like a good thing. Mostly software doesn't make people's lives better, instead it does the exact opposite. A society that recognizes that, and rejects the people who build it, is ahead of the curve.

Yeah but then you get demolished by the economies who made bank with software and loose a lot of your skilled youth to them via brain drain and are left with an ageing population and high welfare costs with nobody left to pay for it because they all left to work in SW in other countries. You can't expect the entire population to share your luxury belief. People at the end of the day want a better living. In a globall…

Maybe the reward is that all the awful tech people went somewhere else?

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Post by rootusrootus »

Barbing wrote: post #189
smugma wrote: post #128

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Forward and rear collision warnings have saved me several times in 3 different cars, including slamming on the brakes as I was backing up and then a MUNI bus that I didn’t see flew by. I’ve also been in 4 accidents that were my fault (one on the same street, a MUNI bus blocked my view of another car that had the right of the way) and 2 that weren’t but I wasn’t able to avoid them. I will always buy a new car with the…

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> all of the rest of us know for a fact we’re above average drivers

The boring reality is that the vast majority of us are average, and average turns out to be pretty safe. The people causing multiple at-fault wrecks are not merely below average, they are way below average.

Re: Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons

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Post by mghackerlady »

mock-possum wrote: post #49
nokeya wrote: post #6

I’m quite suspicious that they do that not because they understood or learned something, but because China requires physical buttons starting next year. And they simply don’t want to lose one of their biggest markets.

So what’s the next link in this chain why is china ‘really’ requiring it?

safety, probably. Why do we require cars have functional brakes?

Re: Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons

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Post by rootusrootus »

pigbearpig wrote: post #252
aenis wrote: post #47

'He also explained that "I'm a big believer in screens, because I really believe if you want to connect, you have to make the magic work behind the screen." ' I am a big believer in keeping "product people" away from UI design for dangerous machinery. The eyes and the attention of the driver should be on the road. All the audio visual noise from the car is just plain dangerous. I don't want my car to draw my attentio…

Yeah, where are they getting the customers that want the big screen? Are these people stupid? These product people have lost touch with reality. I'm driving, I want to focus on the road, not a 39 x 6" touch screen.

They're all copying Tesla. And ironically, only Tesla had a rational reason for their decision -- cost cutting. Not that I think the result is a net positive for the rest of us, it was ideal for Tesla. But just like the rest of their cost cutting choices they successfully spun it as a positive, and now other manufacturers are racing to copy them for all the wrong reasons. Though I suspect those manufacturers do secretly know the real reason and hope to benefit from it.

Re: Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons

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Post by skrtskrt »

jcgrillo wrote: post #415
raxxorraxor wrote: post #381

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Software in Germany is simply not highly regarded, on the contrary. It is seen as necessary evil at best. Ageing population that finds itself overwhelmed is my guess. There are exceptions, but they are far and few between.

That seems like a good thing. Mostly software doesn't make people's lives better, instead it does the exact opposite. A society that recognizes that, and rejects the people who build it, is ahead of the curve.

Well no, the result is they still make a lot of software it’s just really bad

Re: Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons

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Post by mghackerlady »

aenis wrote: post #167
nottorp wrote: post #165

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> He also explained that "I'm a big believer in screens, because I really believe if you want to connect, you have to make the magic work behind the screen." ' I'd say he doesn't drive himself.

Likely. What does this sentence even mean? "if you want to connect, you have to make the magic work behind the screen". It crashes my parser. Good thing I am not reading hacker news while driving :-)

corpospeak for "we want to be a 'platform' but our software guys suck"

Re: Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons

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Post by mghackerlady »

Barbing wrote: post #212
lpcvoid wrote: post #118

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Well, seniors get everything else handed to them in this world, so I don't shed many tears when they are left out for once.

Some deserve our wrath but it’s tough for a lot of them out there! From USA: The U.S. Census Bureau's latest data, released today, show that the poverty rate continues to rise among older adults, reaching 15%. This rise in economic challenges comes as recent cuts to benefits programs, like SNAP and Medicaid, will inevitably leave more older adults without funds to afford basic costs of living, including medications,…

boohoo, a whole 15 percent. Maybe they should've thought about that before collectively voting for the worst possible people

Re: Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons

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Post by jcheng »

ssl-3 wrote: post #340
sandworm101 wrote: post #317

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My favorite car was a 92 BMW 325IS coupe, standard. It was a simple driving machine. It drove well. It performed when asked. It had room for four, or three plus skiis with half the rear seat folded down. And BMW took a strong stance against drinking and driving: zero cup holders. I miss that car. I would buy one again in a heartbeat if BMW still made them.

My E36 was fantastic as well. Automatic climate control, heated motorized mirrors, heated monkey pissers, heated power-adjusted leather seats, power windows, power sunroof, dash lights that fluidly adjusted to ambient conditions, two throttle bodies (in series -- one for the loud pedal, one for the ASC+T), and a single-DIN radio that was dead-nuts simple to upgrade properly whilst leaving the rest of the factory syst…

Former E36 owner here as well. What are "monkey pissers"?
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