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Re: UAE to leave OPEC

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Post by anvuong »

ethbr1 wrote: post #269
wat10000 wrote: post #87

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They've also been cooperating on blockading Gaza for a couple of decades. Israel gets most of the attention for that, mostly rightfully so, but people seem to forget that there's a border with Egypt too and that has also had very limited access.

As an Arab friend summed it up, 'All Arab governments like to trumpet the Palestinian cause when it serves them, but none of them are willing to lift a finger to help the Palestinians.'

Are you sure? Jordanians tried and it burned them spectacularly. And if my memory served, Egypt also tried to some extent and eventually was eagerly and happily offloading Gaza into Israel's hands. Then, they built a huge border defensive line to keep Gazan out that would make Trump's Mexican border a joke in comparison.

At some points people need to wonder why.

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

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Post by rafale »

fakedang wrote: post #408
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #63

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> an explainer of how many different proxy forces are involved in Yemen RealLifeLore has been doing a decent job covering it [1]. The broad summary is you have the Saudi-backed unity government, the Iranian-backed Houthis, who claim all of Yemen but practically want North Yemen, and the UAE-backed STC, who also claim all of Yemen but practically want South Yemen. Emiratis bring the Israelis to the party. The Iranians…

STC was defeated after a Saudi bombing campaign, and their independent nation quashed. While there might be holdouts here and there, they are a non-entity now.

Quite impressive how they folded. UAE bluff was called spectacularly and I think that, in the future, looking back, that event might mark the beginning of the end of their geopolitical ambitions.

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

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Post by shykes »

Yizahi wrote: post #202
wat10000 wrote: post #87

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They've also been cooperating on blockading Gaza for a couple of decades. Israel gets most of the attention for that, mostly rightfully so, but people seem to forget that there's a border with Egypt too and that has also had very limited access.

Egypt learned on other's mistakes for once. They saw how Jordan welcomed Palestinians on their land and they repaid the kindness by launching a coup against the government in 1970. No wonder not a single anti-Israeli coalition country is willing to deal with Palestinians directly at their own home and are keeping borders watertight :) .

Don't forget that after being expelled from Jordan, Arafat relocated to Lebanon where he proceeded to take over the South ("Fatahland"), start a civil war, and pull in Israel with constant attacks across the border. Until Israel kicked them out in 1982, the Palestinians played the disruptive, parasitic role in Lebanon that Hezbollah plays today. In fact, Hezbollah rose to power precisely by filling the void left by the Palestinians in 82.

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

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Post by eddythompson80 »

sgarland wrote: post #458
nakedrobot2 wrote: post #423

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Johnny Harris is astoundingly wrong about most things, so I'll skip it thanks

Years ago I had found his channel and liked it, and then some video (I don’t remember the title or even subject at this time) came up on a subject I happened to know quite a bit about. He got to some point in an explanation, bungled it, and then hand-waved it away, saying the details were unimportant. Stopped caring about anything he had to say after that, and I also then realized that there was a an entire genre of…

Same. It was the "How The U.S. Ruined Bread" video for me after which I started watching critically and found the editing style to be over the top and makes it harder to think about the content while it's being presented. So I eventually stopped watching.

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

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Post by anvuong »

amluto wrote: post #324
post-it wrote: post #212

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This is, respectfully, corporate propaganda. Consumers buy the vehicles that are available and advertised. It's in the best interest of manufacturers to convince/compel consumers to buy larger, more expensive vehicles with higher margins, and that's exactly what they're doing.

How many CAFE compliant “light trucks” do you see around? CAFE is a great example of a well-meaning regulation failing because the people who developed and approved it didn’t think through the obvious consequences.

Well, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

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Post by shykes »

anvuong wrote: post #461
ethbr1 wrote: post #269

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As an Arab friend summed it up, 'All Arab governments like to trumpet the Palestinian cause when it serves them, but none of them are willing to lift a finger to help the Palestinians.'

Are you sure? Jordanians tried and it burned them spectacularly. And if my memory served, Egypt also tried to some extent and eventually was eagerly and happily offloading Gaza into Israel's hands. Then, they built a huge border defensive line to keep Gazan out that would make Trump's Mexican border a joke in comparison. At some points people need to wonder why.

Egypt is trying to have their cake and eat it too. Total crackdown on islamists at home - whether Hamas or any other incarnation of the Muslim Brotherhood - but also making sure they remain a thorn in the side of Egypt's rivals. See for example the massive smuggling tunnels discovered by the IDF in Rafah in 2024, which had been keeping Hamas covertly resupplied through Egypt. Hard to imagine that Egypt was unaware.

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

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Post by shykes »

ceejayoz wrote: post #141
trollbridge wrote: post #115

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This is to a large part to give Egypt plausible deniability. They don’t want to deal with Gaza, refugees, or a humanitarian crisis, but also don’t want the political fallout of taking action like the Israelis do.

Eh, 50/50. Israel would not respond positively to Egypt throwing the gates wide open.

On the contrary, I believe Israel would be delighted. It would lessen the humanitarian burden on them, and force Egypt to deal with the Hamas problem more directly. It will never happen, though. No Arab country will "throw the gates wide open" for Palestinians. They have done so before, several times, and it went very badly.

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

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Post by shykes »

pixl97 wrote: post #186
ceejayoz wrote: post #141

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Eh, 50/50. Israel would not respond positively to Egypt throwing the gates wide open.

At the same time, neither would Egypt. Refugee crisises are messy.

Yes, the "refugee crisis" in Jordan and Lebanon was indeed quite messy...

https://www.thoughtco.com/black-september-jordanian-plo-civi...

https://www.historiascripta.org/post-ww2/the-palestinians-of...

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

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Post by shykes »

j_maffe wrote: post #83
delecti wrote: post #74

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> Put together, we’re seeing an Emirati-Israeli axis emerging to balance Saudi hegemony in the Gulf and Iranian hegemony over the Persian Gulf. I’d expect to see an Emirati deal with Egypt and India next if this hypothesis is correct. Don't Egypt and Israel hate each other though? Could UAE feasibly align with both?

Egyptians and Israelis hate each other, not their governments. They're on friendly terms relatively speaking.

Israelis do not hate Egyptians... The Arab world has a major Jew-hatred problem, but the reverse it not true.

Remember that 20% of the Israeli population is Arab.

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