They have till morning to clean up this giant PR mess. I think people will leave for codex
Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#462Apparently it's just an A/B test. Legit LMAO moment, speedrunning reputation destruction to your entire userbase just to test a question whose answer you can probably already guess. --- > For clarity, we're running a small test on ~2% of new prosumer signups. Existing Pro and Max subscribers aren't affected. > When we launched Max a year ago, it didn't include Claude Code, Cowork didn't exist, and agents that run for…
big fan of A/B tests that dehumanize the consumer into some kind of money making lab rat funnel whose only purpose is to be experimented on how you can extract more money out of it peak siliconbromaxxing
But they have red ethical redlines bs
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#463What a way to ruin goodwill with the very community they are trying to court. I am on a Pro subscription to use with Claude Code, but it sounds like the days of using it are numbered. I guess I will be trying the latest offering from OpenAI and Google tomorrow and if they are satisfactory I might just switch. Moreover, I have been recommending Anthropic's API solutions up to now to friends and clients. Based on this…
I have codex and Gemini for spill over, they work good.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#464Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think removing Claude Code from the $20 tier is a terrible idea, I never would've gone from nothing right into the $100/200 tier. The $20 plan let me get my feet wet and see how good it could be, and in less than a week I was on the $100 plan. I think they need to at least have a 1 month introductory rate for the max plan at $20, or devs that decide to try out agentic coding just won't go to Anthropic. That leads t…
They're not losing anything. They have much more demand than they could ever fulfill to care anymore about promotional or subsidized user groups.
Until magically all their demand vaporizes.
I suspect a lot of people are like me. They got into this at the $20/month level individually to check things out. I'm not stressing things out, so I haven't moved up, but the moment I bump into a limit, I'll pull the trigger by default. Until then, I'm the sleeping dog, and you should let me lie.
Well, Anthropic decided to kick me. Now, I'm investing the time to figure out how to use the "open" and "Chinese" models assuming that Anthropic is about to screw me. Once I switch, Anthropic is going to have to demonstrate significant improvements over what I'm now using to get me to even consider them again.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#465Earlier quoted context omitted.
pretty much none of these big providers are offering the guarantees needed to be taken seriously in workplaces right now. the technology itself isn't offering the deterministic guarantees that should warrant it in the workplace right now. problem is everyone's foot is just on the gas. even if your workplace isnt paying for it, people are just straight up rolling their own personal claude accounts to do work at orgs.…
Anthropic is absolutely taken seriously in workplaces, what are you even talking about? No serious business uses Pro or Max, they are all on Anthropic API billing. In fact with this move it is plainly obvious that Anthropic is moving compute from prosumers towards enterprise.
But the API is incredibly expensive. I calculated that I would have spent 3000 EUR the last month, a lot more than the 100 I pay now.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#466I don't think I've ever been on such a rollercoaster with a company's reputation in the developer space. I started in January on the $20 plan, essentially my first agentic AI programming. I quickly started hitting limits developing several apps at the same time. I went up to the $200 plan after seeing the value. After seeing my own issues with 4.6 and the mega-post on Github about declining metrics in a decent datase…
Matches my experience very well. All the goodwill earned from taking a stand against the DoD seemingly forgotten in a month. Coincidentally, I canceled my pro subscription and got set up with OpenCode and OpenRouter last night.
Got any good pointers to documentation for making the transition? I'd like to pull the trigger for OpenCode and OpenRouter as well.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#467Earlier quoted context omitted.
In physical markets we call this kinda thing dumping and it's often regulated. Maybe offering SaaS or compute at below profitable rates should be investigatable too, to avoid killing competitors too easily?
The whole Silicon Valley VC industry and the majority of the net worth of SWEs on HN is based on dumping. "Burning VC cash" is transparently dumping, and it's squarely what the US big tech dominance is founded on. Amazon, Uber, Youtube, now LLMs. The huge majority of "success stories" of the last 15 years are based on dumping their product far below cost price, running at a loss for years until they dominate the mark…
I didn't think Amazon engaged in dumping.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#468They'll remove it.
Then some genius intern will say "if we offer it to the lowest level plans, the users will get hooked on how awesome it is!"
Then Anthropic will put it back.
Or they could just ask Claude if it is a good idea to remove.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#469Makes sense. It is over for the little guy - home enthusiasts and vibe coders. Too many of them saturating resources for Max users. IF you cannot afford few hundred dollars subscription go out and breathe fresh air. But if you can, watch where the ball is rolling - few thousand dollars subscriptions and even less programmers.
Truly makes no sense. I pay for the $200/month plan and end up using about $3k/month worth of API costs. I imagine that the only reason they haven’t cut me off is because my habits serve as good training data for them. Guess they’ve decided to move in the direction of allocating compute primarily to power users and enterprise. But power users are not a sticky customer base. I just bought the ChatGPT Pro plan and woul…
Or the API is overpriced. The concept of charging per tokens does not map well to the actual costs an AI company has.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#470This is a risky move. I might have paid $20/month for my personal projects but the Max subscription is a bit steep. Now I'm going to learn more about local models. I don't need to be as good as a frontier model. Good enough and free from all this drama is a win for me
If you are looking at open models, check out Pi, as its very extensible and comes with a sane default. Maybe even roll your own.
Most harnesses (claude, codex, opencode etc.) assume that you use a cloud model. There’s no sense of optimization or finer control.