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Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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I'm trying to understand the actual harm you think would come to free software if in fact there were no copyright, hence no GPL.

The reason that large successful projects like Linux are so capable is not because it has a price tag of zero (and it often does not), but because of the feedback loop created by the viral-nature of the software license. The vast majority of Linux is not a volunteer project -- but software developed by commercial software engineers who are being paid by a company to write software. Before copyleft, the idea that they…

This entire comment is completely backwards. Linux gained momentum first, then it was adopted by the wider industry.

It's much easier to upstream your desired changes than maintain a separate fork (closed or otherwise) long-term. Additionally, many of the contributors have been using it for own servers, not required to contribute back.

Things like NVidia and other closed drivers show you can bolt a non-open part to the GPL code if you try enough.

> And without copyleft, Linux would have been a hobby OS that died out in the early 90s. We'd be using things like Windows Server, Unix, etc.

This ignores the entire existence of FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD.

> they'd have heavy DRM schemes, obfuscation, cryptographic licensing

This ignores the existence of heavy DRM schemes, obfuscation, kernel-level anticheat spyware, criminalisation of copyright-circumvention schemes, etc.

At this point, I think you're just trolling, so I'll stop here.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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So if you're fraudulently accused of wrongdoing that makes you a criminal? Nice, nice....

In this case, yes. Ignoring invalid dmca requests is not a legal way to deal with them.

What od you mean it's not legal?

If I don't live in the US and/or didn't do whatever the fraudulent DMCA notice accused me of doing, why do I have to process it?

Remember the context.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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post #461

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason that large successful projects like Linux are so capable is not because it has a price tag of zero (and it often does not), but because of the feedback loop created by the viral-nature of the software license. The vast majority of Linux is not a volunteer project -- but software developed by commercial software engineers who are being paid by a company to write software. Before copyleft, the idea that they…

This entire comment is completely backwards. Linux gained momentum first, then it was adopted by the wider industry. It's much easier to upstream your desired changes than maintain a separate fork (closed or otherwise) long-term. Additionally, many of the contributors have been using it for own servers, not required to contribute back. Things like NVidia and other closed drivers show you can bolt a non-open part to t…

> It's much easier to upstream your desired changes than maintain a separate fork (closed or otherwise) long-term. Additionally, many of the contributors have been using it for own servers, not required to contribute back.

Then why is ~75% of the kernel from corporate commits today? You think large tech companies just started to become coincidentally generous with the advent of Linux?

> This ignores the entire existence of FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD.

The BSD are quite niche in install base and highly rely on GPL'd ports from Linux.

And, by far the most popular OS in the BSD family tree is MacOS, which is primarily closed source.

> This ignores the existence of heavy DRM schemes, obfuscation, kernel-level anticheat spyware, criminalisation of copyright-circumvention schemes, etc.

I'm not ignoring it, I'm telling you that would be more common, if you remove the all of the other mechanisms by which a company could choose. Without any legal controls whatsoever, the only option to control the use of a company's software would be through technical means. Removing other options would be incentivizing this.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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How do people safely download from these torrent sites? Isn't there a risk that you'll download something you wouldn't want on your computer? Yet I hear of many people actively using them, so there must be more to it.

How is a video file a risk? If you mean a game, then yes, you may get a virus.

Given the context, they're probably referring to epubs. Files could contain just generic malicious javascript or malware that attempts to exploit vulnerabilities in specific ereaders.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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It’s well established if the US wants to they can find them and crypto can be traced. Same question though how are they paying for the domain, assuming this is on the plaintiff to trace

Well clearly that’s false? Not all crypto transactions are traceable for example. And since they haven’t found them, that seems to disprove your statement doesn’t it?

Not really this is civil case not the full weight of a state behind it

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Have you considered blaming Spotify or the music industry instead for how ridiculously closed the entire system is?

$10 a month for all the music every recorded. Free with ads. How much more open can they make it?

There is nothing open about that. You own none of it. Only usable within their walled off platforms.

Want to build an alternative player? Can’t do that. Support new or alternative hardware? Sorry, no API access. Want to record them onto a tape/CD/SD card? Forbidden. Want to play songs at your neighborhood party? Illegal. Use them for a funny video? Nope. Even sharing lyrics gets you a DMCA takedown request.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Seems like quite an eager purchase. Could you not have borrowed one of them from the library?

That’s what they did by downloading it from the Anna’s Archive.

I guess I'm often a little surprised at how quickly people jump into things without trying them first; the method is somewhat incidental, except for the fact we have tax funded institution for borrowing books. I'll buy a book with little more than a recommendation, but I'm not inclined to buy a full series, or every book by a certain author up-front even if I had read the first one.

Kind of like how some people will buy a full ski kit before ever having tried it.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Anna's Archive pretty explicitly doesn't give a shit about the law.

Except they do and posted this weird (and racist) national security narrative about llms and copyright reform https://annas-archive.gl/blog/ai-copyright.html

To be more specific: Anna’s archive does not give two shits about compliance with laws they think unjust.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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I've always liked China's business model for music. In China, all music is free to stream and download. Musicians make their money the more traditional way, through performances, merchandise, promotions/advertising, etc.

That’s basically the US model as well now.

The US still enforces copyright law on song distribution which is the big difference. It basically requires a middleman (like spotify) that soaks up all the revenue from that distribution while giving almost nothing back to the artists.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

#470

This doesn't change things much , besides making domain name registration more difficult, but I continue to think this Spotify thing was a really dumb move on the part of Anna's Archive. AA is providing a valuable service to tons of people who don't have access to these books otherwise. There's a strong argument to be made for the moral goodness of that -- that even if it's illegal, it's at least in the spirit of a p…

I know, considering anyone can download music from youtube for free at any time. The same can not be said of books, before AA.
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