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Re: AI assistance when contributing to the Linux kernel

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Yeah, but that's not a useful thing to do because not everybody thinks about that or considers it a problem. If somebody's careless and contributes copyrighted code, that's a problem for linux too, not only the author. For comparison, you wouldn't say, "you're free to use a pair of dice to decide what material to build the bridge out of, as long as you take responsibility if it falls down", because then of course som…

> Preventing the problem from the beginning is better than ensuring you have somebody to blame for the problem when it happens. that's assuming that the problems and incentives are the same for everyone. Someone whose uncle happens to own a bridge repair company would absolutely be incentivized to say > "you're free to use a pair of dice to decide what material to build the bridge out of, as long as you take responsi…

Sorry, what's that got to do with anything? Who's the uncle supposed to be here in your analogy? The copyright owner? And so your hypothesis is that somebody's pushing AI in order to sneak copyrighted code into linux in order to sue them later? Seems very far fetched, and besides, why would I care about their incentives? Why would the linux foundation be interested in allowing that to happen?

Re: AI assistance when contributing to the Linux kernel

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If your doctor told you he used an ouija board to find your diagnosis, would you care about the origin of the diagnosis or just trust that he'll be accountable for it?

If the Ouija board was powered by Opus, who knows :D

Now who's insane? ;)

> Why would you care about the "origin" of the [diagnosis] as long as there is a human accountable?

Re: AI assistance when contributing to the Linux kernel

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post #449

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You are agreeing with me, you just don't know it yet. 1) The financial aspect: As you say, more and more advanced DRM requires more and more advanced tools. Even assuming advanced AI can guide any human to do the physical part, that still means you have to pay for the hardware. And the hardware has to be available (companies have been known to harass people into giving up perfectly moral and legal projects). 2) The l…

> The financial aspect: As you say, more and more advanced DRM requires more and more advanced tools Yeah I have broken cutting edge $15,000 HSMs used by fintech companies, with a flash drive. Not worried about this. Most HSM designers are solving for compliance, not security. > The legal aspect: Possession of burglary tools is illegal in some places. A security researcher like myself would be crazy to live in those…

> A security researcher like myself would be crazy to live in those places

Just this alone is incredibly naive. People don't choose where they are born and they don't uproot their entire family and social connections when laws change.

Re: AI assistance when contributing to the Linux kernel

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post #458

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There's no such thing as piracy of the public domain. You're either hopelessly ill-suited to grapple with this topic or you're a troll, so I won't comment further. If you're actually sincere in your beliefs, then take the money you regularly spend on hiring those specialized IP lawyers you mentioned and get one who will provide a second opinion and provide a detailed explanation of why what you're saying here is nons…

You were provided with the context to educate yourself about what "uncopyrightable" means, and indeed most LLM output is >20% nonsense. Data theft of service or piracy from the web and "AI" users content are used in the model training sets, and when codified the statistical saliency is significant if popular content is present. For example, when an LLM does a vector search, there is a high probability of pirated cont…

> One may believe whatever they like

Indeed.

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