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Post by BurningFrog »

pixelatedindex wrote: post #285
BurningFrog wrote: post #233

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> the alternative (making people feel bad) The actual alternative is to tell the fat people that they really need to fix their serious health problem! Politely watching them die before you is maybe comfortable, but pretty messed up.

I’m sure they know, pointing it out doesn’t solve anything. > Politely watching them die before you is maybe comfortable, but pretty messed up. I disagree. It’s their choice, and they should be free to do what they want and not be criticized. In fact it’s not comfortable and sometimes I do want to say something but that’s not very kind.

Everyone should be free to do what they want.

This includes criticizing others!

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Post by anal_reactor »

threethirtytwo wrote: post #435
anal_reactor wrote: post #373

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> No part of population growth was addiction to sex. Bold claim.

I mean that generally. We have sex for pleasure and for many it’s hard to abstain forever. I’m not referring to sex addiction as a chronic disease.

Yes. And sex results in babies. I cannot link to any resources backing that claim so you'll have to just trust me here.

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Post by simonask »

jimbokun wrote: post #404
simonask wrote: post #391

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What studies support your critiques?

The amount of effort I’m willing to dedicate to counter wild Social Darwinism is very low. Please just do the bare minimum and go to Wikipedia.

Re: Student beauty and grades under in-person and remote teaching

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Post by tptacek »

cubefox wrote: post #460
tptacek wrote: post #455

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Alex Strudwick Young.

Link?

He's pretty easy to find. I'm not messing with you, he's just the most obvious example that came to my head. For I think kind of obvious reasons?

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Post by rhubarbtree »

TrackerFF wrote: post #68

People that have used to be fat, and then lost a lot of weight, will know how brutally different people will treat you. Whereas you'd practically be a ghost before weight loss, random people will suddenly look you in your eyes, smile, even start conversations with you. Some will of course argue that you losing weight will also make you more confident, and thus you become more approachable. I think there's a lot of bi…

I don’t know how widely this observation has been made, but relatedly it is very hard to be a very attractive person. I’m very much glad to be average.

I’ve known a few very attractive people close up, and their lives are difficult. One example: you are presented with so many partners it can be very difficult to choose, and hard to discern who actually likes you as a person vs is just attracted to you. How can you pick a partner who is going to be a good match and faithful? And when you’re in a relationship, it’s harder to stay faithful when other people are throwing themselves at you and you suffer FOMO.

I could go on, but you get my point.

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Post by jimbokun »

hirvi74 wrote: post #457
jimbokun wrote: post #409

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Can you learn to the test without actually learning the material?

Without learning the material? Unlikely. Without understanding the material? More likely. Feynman made such an observation while in Brazil: https://enlightenedidiot.net/random/feynman-on-brazilian-edu...

Ok that’s a very good criticism.

My take away is the assessment method must force the student to actually apply understanding and application of the material, and not simply look y regurgitate it.

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Post by pixelatedindex »

BurningFrog wrote: post #461
pixelatedindex wrote: post #285

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I’m sure they know, pointing it out doesn’t solve anything. > Politely watching them die before you is maybe comfortable, but pretty messed up. I disagree. It’s their choice, and they should be free to do what they want and not be criticized. In fact it’s not comfortable and sometimes I do want to say something but that’s not very kind.

Everyone should be free to do what they want. This includes criticizing others!

Fair argument, but I don’t think criticizing their weight benefits either party. Unless you’re a super close friend and you do it occasionally as a reminder when they are going off the rails.

My family constantly says I’m on the bigger side - but does it help? Absolutely not. Does it hurt? A little bit, at least. Then they shame you for “going on a diet”, but also asks why you don’t eat. I don’t need others to pile their opinions on top of it.

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Post by cubefox »

tptacek wrote: post #464
cubefox wrote: post #460

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Link?

He's pretty easy to find. I'm not messing with you, he's just the most obvious example that came to my head. For I think kind of obvious reasons?

If you are unable to provide a specific source for your claim, you probably made it up.

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Post by tptacek »

cubefox wrote: post #468
tptacek wrote: post #464

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He's pretty easy to find. I'm not messing with you, he's just the most obvious example that came to my head. For I think kind of obvious reasons?

If you are unable to provide a specific source for your claim, you probably made it up.

If you don't know the people doing work in this field today, and instead are just Googling "heritability of IQ numbers" (which would explain the Wilson Effect paper you kind of inexplicably posted) you can find previous threads that I've discussed this in using the search bar below. Either way, "you probably just made this up" is not OK on HN.

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Post by amelius »

yepguy wrote: post #335
throwaway173738 wrote: post #269

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Part of what you signal with your wardrobe isn’t just that you care for yourself. You’re signaling to others that you care about how you appear to them. We can’t expect other people to ignore that signal because showing that you care about how other people see you is a proxy signal for caring about other people.

I was going to comment something similar to this. To an extent, dressing and grooming well is a sign of respect you show to other people as well as to yourself. If you can't clear that relatively low bar, don't be surprised when people aren't super excited about what you might add to their lives.

> If you can't clear that relatively low bar, don't be surprised when people aren't super excited about what you might add to their lives.

You mean like that guy giving keynote presentations in a turtleneck and jeans?

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