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Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by trimethylpurine »

oa335 wrote: post #454
trimethylpurine wrote: post #449

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Iran advertises and brags about how many civilians they've killed and literally states its purpose is to export revolution. But America is the bad guy? No... Not even close. Do you see Americans cheering for the dead school children? I'm watching Iran cheering for the dead children in countries around the world every day for 40 years. You should be ashamed of yourself for even comparing.

> Do you see Americans cheering for the dead school children? I'm watching Iran cheering for the dead children in countries around the world every day for 40 years. I agree, people should be ashamed of supporting killing civilians and any society that supports that should be criticized. I’m not familiar with any instances of Iranis celebrating civilian deaths though? Do you have any examples? Maybe something like thi…

Iran (govt) is not Iranian. They are occupied. And yes. From your same source (Israeli news) for added effect.

https://www.thejewishstar.com/stories/palestinian-tradition-...

Thousands more similar articles. This is not a new tradition. Decades of this same behavior everywhere that Iran operates terror orgs.

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Post by lukan »

squibonpig wrote: post #450
lukan wrote: post #432

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"Despite the war aims being nebulous, illegal, and ever changing, none of them would be advanced by bombing a girls school." If the goal is to force the enemy into giving up? Many are willing to give their life to a cause, but way less are willing to give the lifes of their children. This was not just some school, but a school where the children of the iranian leadership are going to. And coincidently Trump himself s…

Prove the claim that multiple children of Iranian leadership attended the school.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/3/questions-over-minab...

"The Shajareh Tayyebeh school in Minab is part of a broad network of schools structurally and administratively affiliated with the IRGC Navy.

These schools are classified as nonprofit institutions and are primarily intended to provide educational services to the sons and daughters of members of the IRGC Navy."

IRGC means leadership (I did not said highest leadership, they would be in Teheran)

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by trimethylpurine »

Hikikomori wrote: post #440
applfanboysbgon wrote: post #415

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> Iran wants to kill us for historical events. No, Iran wants to kill you for current events. You're talking like American imperialism in the Middle East is past-tense. It is on-going, constantly. It is happening right now . This, itself, is an imperialist war. Trump is not going to war for whatever fucking reason you think he is, like stopping terrorism or changing the Iranian regime to help the Iranian people. > Yo…

Just to add, Israel killed Irans negotiators last year when they were approaching a deal. This situation is manufactured.

"Negotiators!?" They were torturing children and using the videos for ransom.

Did you just not know that or you would still call that negotiating?

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by trimethylpurine »

applfanboysbgon wrote: post #415
trimethylpurine wrote: post #412

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Your other comment is locked apparently. Can't reply. But there you suggested that the US should stop because they make Iran want to bomb and that's why there's war. And we can say the same about Iran. So, your solution is hopeless as we already know from centuries of conflict history. Iran wants to kill us for historical events. We want to kill them for those too. Very insightful. But we're bigger and the war is jus…

> Iran wants to kill us for historical events. No, Iran wants to kill you for current events. You're talking like American imperialism in the Middle East is past-tense. It is on-going, constantly. It is happening right now . This, itself, is an imperialist war. Trump is not going to war for whatever fucking reason you think he is, like stopping terrorism or changing the Iranian regime to help the Iranian people. > Yo…

>'No, Iran wants to kill you for current events"

Which events were they wanting to kill Israelis and Americans for on October 7th? Or is it totally acceptable for Iran to start wars by kidnapping and torturing civilians and filming it, but not for America to do it without celebrating the death, kidnap, torture and rape of children?

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Post by pablomalo »

Pay08 wrote: post #416
ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #331

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As a Brit, I'm disgusted that Starmer is allowing UK bases to be used by the US for launching attacks. I can see it being just a matter of time before Starmer drags us into another war of lies. (Last time it was Tony Blair, also a Labour leader and he still hasn't been tried for his war crimes).

A UK base was attacked. Would you rather Starmer be the next Chamberlain?

Fallacious comparison, two entirely different situations. For a start, whatever the Iranian response, the aggressor at the root of this particular episode is the other side: the U.S.

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Post by trimethylpurine »

applfanboysbgon wrote: post #414
trimethylpurine wrote: post #409

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> The regime in the US has been terrorizing around the world Yeah, that already happened. Now what? How do we stop more kids from getting kidnapped, raped, murdered, or bombed? Your proposed solution is essentially a leader in every country that has suffered from Iran's terror who can convince his/her people that their kidnapped children are worth it. Obviously that isn't feasible. But worse, how is that different th…

> How do we stop more kids from getting kidnapped, raped, murdered, or bombed? Not launching missiles at schools would be a great start to stopping kids from being bombed! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47479695

So just hit military targets?

Do you think America thought of that already? I think they did and civilians still died.

Do you have any realistic suggestions?

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by oa335 »

trimethylpurine wrote: post #461
oa335 wrote: post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do you see Americans cheering for the dead school children? I'm watching Iran cheering for the dead children in countries around the world every day for 40 years. I agree, people should be ashamed of supporting killing civilians and any society that supports that should be criticized. I’m not familiar with any instances of Iranis celebrating civilian deaths though? Do you have any examples? Maybe something like thi…

Iran (govt) is not Iranian. They are occupied. And yes. From your same source (Israeli news) for added effect. https://www.thejewishstar.com/stories/palestinian-tradition-... Thousands more similar articles. This is not a new tradition. Decades of this same behavior everywhere that Iran operates terror orgs.

I shared articles of Israelis celebrating deaths of Palestinian civilians, and you shared an article of Palestinians celebrating Israeli deaths.

I asked for proof of your claim that Iranis celebrated civilian deaths and you still have not shown that.

Additionally your statement:

“ Iran (govt) is not Iranian. They are occupied.” betrays a basic ignorance of Iran. Irans government is comprised entirely of Iranians.

Lastly, to paraphrase your earlier statement:

> I'm watching Israel cheering for the dead children Palestine for decades. You should be ashamed of yourself for even comparing.

I’m fine arguing with the ignorant or unprincipled, but it’s not worth my time interacting with someone who displays both.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by specproc »

Pay08 wrote: post #416
ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Brit, I'm disgusted that Starmer is allowing UK bases to be used by the US for launching attacks. I can see it being just a matter of time before Starmer drags us into another war of lies. (Last time it was Tony Blair, also a Labour leader and he still hasn't been tried for his war crimes).

A UK base was attacked. Would you rather Starmer be the next Chamberlain?

Interestingly, this is denied by the Iranians.

Regardless, Trump and Bibi started this war unilaterally. It's not gone as planned and now they want our support.

The only appeasement I've seen the UK do (repeatedly) in my lifetime is in kowtowing to the US and Israel.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by squibonpig »

lukan wrote: post #462
squibonpig wrote: post #450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prove the claim that multiple children of Iranian leadership attended the school.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/3/questions-over-minab... "The Shajareh Tayyebeh school in Minab is part of a broad network of schools structurally and administratively affiliated with the IRGC Navy. These schools are classified as nonprofit institutions and are primarily intended to provide educational services to the sons and daughters of members of the IRGC Navy." IRGC means leadership (I did not said highes…

Wow, I didn't know that. Fucked to think they may have done it on purpose. Sheesh, thanks for finding that
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