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Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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Post by wraptile »

remarkEon wrote: post #185
layer8 wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is that Anthropic wanted to reserve the right to judge when the red lines are crossed, while OpenAI will defer to the DoD and its policies for that. In both cases, the two parties can claim to agree on the principles, but when push comes to shove, who decides on whether the principles are violated differs.

Seems Anthropic did not understand the questions they were asked. From the WaPo: >A defense official said the Pentagon’s technology chief whittled the debate down to a life-and-death nuclear scenario at a meeting last month: If an intercontinental ballistic missile was launched at the United States, could the military use Anthropic’s Claude AI system to help shoot it down? >It’s the kind of situation where technologi…

> If an intercontinental ballistic missile was launched at the United States, could the military use Anthropic’s Claude AI system to help shoot it down?

I'm sorry but lol

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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Post by pluc »

Imnimo wrote: post #16

I don't see how OpenAI employees who have signed the We Will Not Be Divided letter can continue their employment there in light of this. Surely if OpenAI had insisted upon the same things that Anthropic had, the government would not have signed this agreement. The only plausible explanation is that there is an understanding that OpenAI will not, in practice, enforce the red lines.

Easy: have no principles that money can't buy. That's the American Dream!

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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Post by ukblewis »

gabeh wrote: post #239

It's only $200 from me for the remainder of the year but you're not getting it anymore OpenAI. Voting with my wallet tonight. Really sad, I've followed OpenAI for years, way before ChatGPT. It's just too hard to true up my values with how they've behaved recently. This sucks. Goodnight everyone.

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Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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Post by pluc »

DANmode wrote: post #141
tempaccount420 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't the safety-conscious employees already leave when OpenAI fired Sam Altman and then re-hired him? In my mind the only people left are those who are there for the stocks.

Review the signers https://notdivided.org

They've been deleted. For obvious reasons. You want to take a stand but you don't want to stop working for the people who do the things you don't want to do. It's all so very american. I'll put my name on but if it doesn't work remove my name so I don't get into trouble ok? Home of the brave.

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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Post by Kim_Bruning »

charcircuit wrote: post #454
Kim_Bruning wrote: post #412

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any government is allowed to choose to do whatever it wants however it wishes; in a republic: given what is legally determined by the three branches. Obviously. They can contract with whomever they want, make any deal with whomever they want. This also means that they should adhere to a deal once it is signed. That's part of the law too. They shouldn't suddenly turn around and try to alter the deal, then retaliate ag…

Just because you sign a deal that didn't mean you can't change it or terminate it in the future. As long as both parties agree any contract can be modified or terminated. If they don't usually the contract contains information on how it works.

Agreed. That's all it had to be.

Which is why Hegseths vindictive actions seem just a little bit disproportionate.

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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Post by 4b11b4 »

tedsanders wrote: post #220
Imnimo wrote: post #16

I don't see how OpenAI employees who have signed the We Will Not Be Divided letter can continue their employment there in light of this. Surely if OpenAI had insisted upon the same things that Anthropic had, the government would not have signed this agreement. The only plausible explanation is that there is an understanding that OpenAI will not, in practice, enforce the red lines.

I'm an OpenAI employee and I'll go out on a limb with a public comment. I agree AI shouldn't be used for mass surveillance or autonomous weapons. I also think Anthropic has been treated terribly and has acted admirably. My understanding is that the OpenAI deal disallows domestic mass surveillance and autonomous weapons, and that OpenAI is asking for the same terms for other AI companies (so that we can continue compe…

lol, naive as hell. why would your company's agreement be the same as the one who just refused the _same_ agreement? Even my question doesn't even make sense, this is a contradiction, therefore your statement must be false. There, it's proven

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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Post by resters »

There will be a scene in some future movie about Trump's authoritarian rise (we are still early in it) that shows Sam signing this agreement. Sam will be played by a character actor meant to symbolize silicon valley opportunism and greed.

What sam and greg don't realize is that the many who succumb to trump's pressure tactics will all be lumped into the same category by history.

Sam and Greg are handing an authoritarian regime that has broken so many laws in the past year a superweapon.

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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Post by 4b11b4 »

cedws wrote: post #253
blueblisters wrote: post #154

My knee-jerk reaction to this was looks like an opportunistic maneuver that Sam is known for and I'm considering canceling my subscriptions and business with OpenAI But what's the most charitable / objective interpretation of this? For example - https://x.com/UnderSecretaryF/status/2027594072811098230 Does it suggest that determination of "lawful use" and Dario's concerns falls upon the government, not the AI provide…

I think Altman probably rationalised it to himself by thinking that if he doesn’t do it, Musk/xAI will, and they give zero fucks about safety. So maybe he told himself that it’s better if OpenAI does it.

yeah or he didn't even
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