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Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by notJim »

nosuchthing wrote: post #411
nilkn wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment is filled with speculation which I think is mostly unfounded and unnecessarily negative in its orientation. Let's take the safety point. Yes, OpenClaw is infamously not exactly safe. Your interpretation is that, by hiring Peter, OpenAI must no longer care about safety. Another interpretation, though, is that offered by Peter himself, in this blog post: "My next mission is to build an agent that even my m…

OpenAI has deleted the word 'safely' from its mission (November 2025) https://theconversation.com/openai-has-deleted-the-word-safe... Thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47008560 Other words removed: responsibly unconstrained safe positive

They also removed the words build, develop, deploy, and technology, indicating that they're no longer a tech company and don't make products anymore. Wonder what they're all gonna do now?

/s

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by r0b05 »

ttul wrote: post #410
elxr wrote: post #258

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The fact that 1 billion is the threshold you chose to highlight shows the ridiculousness of this industry. Openclaw is an amazing piece of hard work and novel software engineering, but I can't imagine OpenAI/anthropic/google not being able to compete with it for 1/20th that number (with solid hiring of course).

The game theory here is that either OpenAI acquires this thing now, or someone else will. It doesn't matter whether they could replicate it. All of the major players can and probably will replicate OpenClaw in their own way and make their thing incredibly scalable and wonderful. But OpenClaw has a gigantic following and it's relevant in this moment. For a trivial amount of money (relatively speaking), OpenAI gets to…

I tend to agree. I don't know whether it's Altman or someone else who makes these deals but OAI have made some brilliant moves and partnerships. Anthropic's tech is great but the OAI makes great business moves.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by rdfc-xn-uuid »

alephnerd wrote: post #377
ass22 wrote: post #375

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"build a hugely popular tool" Define hugely popular relative to the scale of users of OAI... personally this thread is the first time Ive heard of openclaw.

The tech industry is broad, and if you are using OpenAI in a consumer and personal manner you weren't the primary persona amongst whom the conversation around OpenClaw occurred. Additionally, much of the conversation I've seen was amongst practitioners and Mid/Upper Level Management who are already heavy users of AI/ML and heavy users of Executive Assistants. There is a reason why if you aren't in a Tier 1 tech hub l…

> There is a reason why if you aren't in a Tier 1 tech hub like SV, NYC, Beijing, Hangzhou, TLV, Bangalore, and Hyderabad you are increasingly out of the loop for a number of changes that are happening within the industry.

I am in one of these tech hubs (Bangalore) and I have never seen any such practitioner pervasively using these "AI executive assistants". People use chatgpt and sometimes the AI extensions like copilot. Do I need to be in HSR layout to see these "number of changes"?

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by rlt »

Rapzid wrote: post #392
ass22 wrote: post #375

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"build a hugely popular tool" Define hugely popular relative to the scale of users of OAI... personally this thread is the first time Ive heard of openclaw.

Last week it was renamed from "Clawd" and this week the creator is abandoning it. Everything is moving fast.

Don’t forget “Moltbot” between “Clawdbot” and “OpenClaw”!

I think that named lasted about 24 hours, but it was long enough to spawn MoltBook.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by ardme »

noelsusman wrote: post #451

It likely won't matter much in the end, but I do think this could be a significant mistake for OpenAI. OpenAI has two real competitors: Anthropic in the enterprise space and Google in the consumer space. Google fell far behind early on and ceded a lot of important market share to ChatGPT. They're catching up, but the runaway success of ChatGPT provides OpenAI with a huge runway among consumers. In the enterprise spac…

This take is imo very contrarian. Is Anthropic really popping champagne? They kind of look like the bad guys in this entire saga. If not the bad guys the enemy of fun and open source builders.

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Post by rlt »

AlexCoventry wrote: post #351
canadiantim wrote: post #185

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There’s actually many UI’s now? See moltis, rowboat, and various others that are popping up daily

Are there any with a credible approach to security, privacy and prompt injections?

Does any credible approach to prompt injection even exist?

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by yoyohello13 »

Trasmatta wrote: post #256
maxaw wrote: post #229

While following OpenClaw, I noticed an unexpected resentment in myself. After some introspection, I realized it’s tied to seeing a project achieve huge success while ignoring security norms many of us struggled to learn the hard way. On one level, it’s selfish discomfort at the feeling of being left behind (“I still can’t bring myself to vibe code. I have to at least skim every diff. Meanwhile this guy is joining Ope…

I've been feeling this SO much lately, in many ways. In addition to security, just the feeling of spending decades learning to write clean code, valuing having a deep understanding of my codebase and tooling, thorough testing, maintainability, etc, etc. Now the industry is basically telling me "all that expertise is pointless, you should give it up, all that we care about it is a future of endless AI slop that nobody…

I've been feeling a similar kind of resentment often. My whole life I have prided myself on being the guy that actually bothers to read the docs and understand how shit works. Seems like the whole industry is basically saying none of that matters, no need to understand anything deeply anymore. Feels bad man.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by [deleted] »

motoboi wrote: post #409
TSiege wrote: post #336

There are a few take aways I think the detractors and celebrators here are missing. 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worrie…

This is basically acquihire. Peter seems really a genius and they better poach him before Anthropic do.

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Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by rlt »

elxr wrote: post #258
piker wrote: post #3

Did this guy just exit the first one man billion-dollar startup for... less than a billion?

The fact that 1 billion is the threshold you chose to highlight shows the ridiculousness of this industry. Openclaw is an amazing piece of hard work and novel software engineering, but I can't imagine OpenAI/anthropic/google not being able to compete with it for 1/20th that number (with solid hiring of course).

Is it really that amazing? It’s a pretty simple idea, and seemed pretty buggy when I tried it out.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

Dude builds an Anthropic-themed vibe-coded app (calls himself an "Anthropoholic"), it becomes insanely popular, and also happens to be completely insecure, Anthropic pressures him to change project's name twice, he does, and finally OpenAI acquires the inventor.
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