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The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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No one should be forced to give an ID for a domestic flight. It always used to be that way. Every day there is huge amount of chipping away at our freedoms. Someone pointed out amazing advice on how to skip certain checks in this thread, well done. Any chance you get to regain freedom, by any means, take it.

Does a small part of you not feel the urge, however, to check who people are before letting them on your plane. By which I mean, after 9/11 and all that happened there.

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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I used to work with a Kevin and a Mohammed. Whenever we travelled to offsite offices Mohammed 100% of the time was picked for bag check, while Kevin was not picked once. Mohammed was white, and Kevin was black. It was completely racist, and never random.

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Wait so when I get treated differently in China due to being white... it's not racist?

You're so far up your own virtue signalling you've lost touch.

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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It's hilarious how transparent a money grab this entire thing is. "You need to show a Real ID for security, otherwise how do we know you won't hijack the plane?" "Well I don't have a Real ID." "Ok then, give us $45 and you can go through." So it was never about security at all then, was it? And don't get me started with all the paid express security lanes. Because of course only poor people can weaponize shoes and la…

I knew the Real ID requirements wouldn't be enforced, at least here in California, about a year before, after I saw the requirements: California can't enforce it because it would prevent too many undocumented people from flying.

Although, I thought it would just be delayed indefinitely. I suppose it effectively has been.

Too much of our economy depends on them.

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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post #444

No one should be forced to give an ID for a domestic flight. It always used to be that way. Every day there is huge amount of chipping away at our freedoms. Someone pointed out amazing advice on how to skip certain checks in this thread, well done. Any chance you get to regain freedom, by any means, take it.

Does a small part of you not feel the urge, however, to check who people are before letting them on your plane. By which I mean, after 9/11 and all that happened there.

Not at all. I wouldn't allow an event such as that in history to remove everyone's freedom, including mine.

There are many other ways a person can inflict damage much larger than that without a plane and easier.

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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TSA has been an elaborate ruse to create a recurring revenue service program called “clear” and tsa-pre. Of course they are also able to monetize the ruse itself.

It's an elaborate ruse to condition Americans to the 4th amendment not being a real thing. The PATRIOT ACT which created the TSA was written by Joe Biden after the Oklahoma City bombing and passed after being reintroduced following 9/11 to end-run around the 4th amendment.

And conveniently, international airports "count" as "border zones" for the supposed "100-mile border zone" exception

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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post #412

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Get a passport card or a Global entry card .. easier to carry on you for domestic travel.

> easier to carry on you for domestic travel. But I shouldn't have to. That's the issue here. I shouldn't need an ID of any sort. I shouldn't need to provide my name or date of birth. Either I have weapons or dangerous substances on me or I don't. That's all that should matter.

What about dangerous thoughts or opinions that run against government interests? That seems rather dangerous as well, don't you think?

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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Tangential: Here in India we have security guards with hand-held metal detectors in malls, railway stations, and urban transit rails (metro) stations. The first time I visited a different country I was surprised to see my friend accompany me to the check-in counter and even further to drop me off. In India they wouldn't let you enter the airport if your flight doesn't depart soon enough.

It used to be normal in the U.S. to walk people to the gate until 9/11. Now you can escort someone to the check-in counter and up to the security checkpoint, and meet people at the luggage area to help with bags. But in practice it seems rare to do so if there isn’t a particular reason, probably because you’d have to pay to park or ride transit and it’s usually a trek beyond that. Honestly if they allowed you to go t…

Pre 9/11 you could go through (useless) security without a ticket but longer ago there wasn't even security. And in some places the "gate" was...a gate. In a fence. So being at the gate meant walking from the street up to the fence. Good times.

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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post #228

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There are legit health reasons to opt out of the scanner. I know because I have one of those conditions and have never been through the scanner.

What is an example of such a condition?

Mass hysteria.
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