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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by pipes »

coffeebeqn wrote: post #385
hightrix wrote: post #337

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To further your argument, look at the XBOX. It is impossible to tell which is the latest model by name alone. Where the playstation is simple, the latest is the 5, the previous was the 4, and the one before that was the 3.

Oh no I just realized the next generation will be called Microsoft 365 Xbox Copilot

ROG Ally X vs. ROG Xbox Ally X.

Also, it is possibly the worst console name of all time.

I don't even know what Xbox is now, is it a service, is it a console, I'm not even joking really.

Also visual studio code Vs full fat visual studio. Thanks Microsoft you just made it more difficult to web search both products.

Full fat .Net Vs dotnet core Vs standard or is that .net.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by dangus »

tylerchilds wrote: post #388
dangus wrote: post #292

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I don’t plan on using the feature and I don’t plan on using Windows much longer in the first place, but I find that going beyond the ragebait headlines and looking at the actual offering and its privacy policy and security documentation makes it look a lot more reasonable. Microsoft is very explicit in detailing how the data stays on device and goes to great lengths to detail exactly how it works to keep data private…

Here are the settlements from Apple and Google regarding “how phones totally aren’t listening to you and selling the data to advertisers” https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-voice-assistant-lawsuit-... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lopez-voice-assistant-payout-se...

1. Not related to the issue at hand, a completely different system implemented in a completely different way.

2. Settlements are just that: settlements. You can be sued frivolously and still decide to settle because it’s cheaper/less risky.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by w0m »

bhadass wrote: post #180
satvikpendem wrote: post #137

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Microsoft can use OpenAI models but it's not the model that's the problem, it's the application of them. Anthropic simply knows how to execute better.

they should just acquire one of the many agent code harnesses. Something like opencode works just as well as claude-code and has only been around half of the time.

I used opencode happily for a while before switching to copilot cli. Been a minute , but I don't detect a major quality difference since they added Plan mode. Seems pretty solid, and first party if that matters to your org.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by TZubiri »

endemic wrote: post #447
TZubiri wrote: post #247

Friendship ended with OpenAI, Now Anthropic is my best friend

Best friendship takes place! https://www.folklore.org/I'll_Be_Your_Best_Friend.html

Learning about tech folklore is the best part of Hacker News, there's stuff you can't learn from books or tutorials (well maybe you could, but you are unlikely to reach it on your own.)

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by tylerchilds »

dangus wrote: post #462
tylerchilds wrote: post #388

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here are the settlements from Apple and Google regarding “how phones totally aren’t listening to you and selling the data to advertisers” https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-voice-assistant-lawsuit-... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lopez-voice-assistant-payout-se...

1. Not related to the issue at hand, a completely different system implemented in a completely different way. 2. Settlements are just that: settlements. You can be sued frivolously and still decide to settle because it’s cheaper/less risky.

1. Any kernel level vulnerability nullify any formal protections Microsoft guarantees as the first party

https://www.bcs.org/articles-opinion-and-research/crowdstrik...

2. Settlements also avoid discovery because the impact is likely way worse than checks notes less than one day of profits per company, respectively.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by jnaina »

banku_brougham wrote: post #400
coffeebeqn wrote: post #385

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Oh no I just realized the next generation will be called Microsoft 365 Xbox Copilot

Microsoft 365 Xbox X Copilot S

It's over 19 years old, but this video is a brutal but hilarious commentary on Microsoft's inherent dysfunction when it comes to product naming and packaging. Still on point decades later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUXnJraKM3k

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by gurrkin »

A lot of Claude love in here. I have used Claude on the web (free tier) well over a year ago and had good results with it, but I need good integration with IntelliJ since I work almost exclusively in Kotlin. Can anyone attest to it? The reviews on the plugin are awful, but so are the reviews for the Copilot plugin. I find Copilot pretty good in there, though the tooling is a little second-class, and it often gets "stuck" in the terminal.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by pietz »

gurrkin wrote: post #467

A lot of Claude love in here. I have used Claude on the web (free tier) well over a year ago and had good results with it, but I need good integration with IntelliJ since I work almost exclusively in Kotlin. Can anyone attest to it? The reviews on the plugin are awful, but so are the reviews for the Copilot plugin. I find Copilot pretty good in there, though the tooling is a little second-class, and it often gets "st…

Why not just use it in the terminal? That's literally what it was built for.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by joegibbs »

hightrix wrote: post #337
marssaxman wrote: post #294

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> Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. They really won't, though; Microsoft just does this kind of thing, over and over and over. Before everything was named "365", it was all "One", before that it was "Live"... 20 years ago, everything was called ".NET" whether it had anything to do with the Internet or not. Back in the '90s they went crazy for a while calling everything "Active…

To further your argument, look at the XBOX. It is impossible to tell which is the latest model by name alone. Where the playstation is simple, the latest is the 5, the previous was the 4, and the one before that was the 3.

The Xbox One.

"Oh you mean the original one?"

No the one that came after the 360.

"The third one?"

No that was the second one, the One was the third.

"OK what are they on now?"

The Series series.

"The Series series?"

Yeah the X and S. Don't confuse that with the Xbox One X or S, or the 360 S.

"Right but what's the difference?"

The X is better than the S because X is a bigger letter. But they run the same games, but they're different. They're the same though.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by Zopieux »

riku_iki wrote: post #403
jckahn wrote: post #121

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Yeah I don't understand why everyone seems to have forgotten about the Gemini options. Antigravity, Jules, and Gemini CLI are as good as the alternatives but are way more cost effective. I want for nothing with my $20/mo Google AI plan.

Google has uncertain privacy settings, there is no declaration they won't train their LLM on your personal/commercial code.

https://macaron.im/blog/ai-assistant-privacy-comparison#:~:t...

All providers are opt-out. The moat is the data, don't pretend like you don't know.

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