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Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by tistoon »

footy wrote: post #23

Good. Carney also remarked our relationship with China is now more predictable with our relationship with the states (wild shade coming from him) just to really make it clear to certain parties why this is happening. Cheaper car options in this country will be nice, and I say this as a certified car hater who's yet to own one despite pushing 40.

You do realize that this will impact the car industry and jobs in Canada, right? Even a not-so-good deal with the usa would be much better that this overall!

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by NicoJuicy »

mathgradthrow wrote: post #374
choppypoofart wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an American I'm rooting for everyone else these days. Good for Canada. I hope the EU builds stronger trade with China too and America gets left in the cold to whither and die. Trump, Vance, Miller, Noem, Musk, Bezos all of them just forgotten about and completely irrelevant to the rest of the world.

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As a Belgian, I don't think there is much point in creating a fake account.

We know the US is different than Trump. But yet, here we are, a wannabe dictator is in control now of the US.

We realized that we have way too much dependencies on the US in a very short time.

It's not going to be easy to unbuckle a >70 year old partnership, but not being prepared if he succeeds will be worse, just ask your Canadian friends.

This guy is willing to sacrifice the entire US for quick personal gain. Luckily it seems he still needs the votes end of November.

Good luck

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by JohnnyMarcone »

quentindanjou wrote: post #331
asdff wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US? No, Trump.

Other country only sees that US elected Trump. So, yes, the US.

This is a point in time for the US and there are institutional paths to change. The comparisons to China forget that China does not have the same mechanisms for change. China is an immutable state outside of revolution or the administration just deciding to transfer power.

If they are successful in destroying democracy, I will reevaluate my view. We don't know what's going to happen in the midterms or 2028.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by tw04 »

This is what happens when you abandon your allies and soft power. The US is about to find out that their economy isn't capable of surviving in 2026 without the soft power they've had since WWII. Steven Miller is also about to find out that, no you can't just "take what you want" and expect the rest of the world to do nothing.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by orwin »

brianwawok wrote: post #110
toomuchtodo wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yeah thee was never any competing with china, our industry just relies on our market using different values to purchase a car. This is patently false. The US could have competed with China if it had maintained investments spinning up battery manufacturing and downstream systems to build EVs at scale, while subsidizing EVs (fossil fuels are subsidized to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars per year [1]) and…

Chinese autoworker makes what, 5k USD a year? Vs 50k+ for union autoworker in the US? How can you win that battle?

Around 9? years ago, Chinese salaries without qualification in coastal city industries were between 600 and 800€/month + lodging (that caused issues in the countryside and less affluent areas that can't offer salaries as competitive), so at worst 7k, at best 10k. Auto workers should be somewhat qualified, so it should be a bit higher. Also the salaries might have grown since

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by mikkupikku »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #440
mikkupikku wrote: post #419

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Greenland was happening, what's taking them so long? The military could take it without a fight tonight, or last month for that matter. They want it, but can't take it because it would be too shocking for the public (aka violating narrative continuity.) If they can prepare the public to accept it then it might happen, but most magas I talk to treat it like a joke, trolling the Europeans to make them invest in defe…

It is not trolling when OUR OFFICIAL DELEGATION left Greenland's in tears. This is OFFICIAL POLICY, OFFICIAL DIPLOMACY and has nothing to do with MAGA, memes, jokes. If I asked you 2 months ago 'do you think Trump will steal tankers of Venezuelan oil using the US military, sell the oil, and deposit the funds in accounts setup offshore in the middle eastern country that gave him a free jumbo jet?' would you have said…

I'm not saying that it's trolling, I do think they genuinely want Greenland at least. I'm saying MAGA people, the portion of the voting public which actually support the administration, think it's trolling. The level of genuine support for it is virtually zero. That's the reason it hasn't already been done.

I hope I'm not talking to a wall here, because I already clearly explained this above: "most magas I talk to treat it like a joke, trolling the Europeans to make them invest in defense or something. I don't think the American public earnestly believes it will happen, and for that reason I think it won't happen."

W.r.t "other priorities", logistically it would be trivial. Their problem is political.

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Post by timeon »

tw04 wrote: post #464

This is what happens when you abandon your allies and soft power. The US is about to find out that their economy isn't capable of surviving in 2026 without the soft power they've had since WWII. Steven Miller is also about to find out that, no you can't just "take what you want" and expect the rest of the world to do nothing.

> when you abandon your allies

Threatening is worse than just "abandon".

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by like_any_other »

Herring wrote: post #446
throw0101d wrote: post #156

A Canadian satire site has the headline "Canada chooses lawful evil over chaotic evil": * https://thebeaverton.com/2026/01/canada-chooses-lawful-evil-... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_%26_Dragon... Edit: A comment in /r/canada: > TBF I would much rather work for Lex Luthor than The Joker if I had to choose one.

China hasn't dropped bombs on foreign soil in over 40 years. The US killed a million Iraqis not that long ago. I think this "China evil" framing is a smear, like how Republican conspiracy theories used to say Democrats are pedophiles. Guess where the real pedophiles were hanging out the whole time.

> The US killed a million Iraqis not that long ago.

There are an estimated 1 million Uyghurs in concentration camps currently [1], but you are correct - neither that, nor the invasion of Tibet, nor whatever process they used to turn a diverse part of a continent into a Han ethnostate [2], or block the NYTimes app from their phones, involved dropping bombs on foreign soil.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_Chin...

[2] Spare me the "56 different ethnic groups!" - 91% is Han, the next highest is 1.4%: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_China

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by keybored »

lenerdenator wrote: post #214

Money talks, actual values walk. Always. I get that this is seen as a "practical" move north-of-the-border, but understand, this is the kind of move that guys like Trump, Putin, and Xi all require. They want this kind of thing to happen, because it shows the real issue was never one of democratic values and human rights. If Canadians valued that then their PM wouldn't be inking a deal with China in response to what T…

The US just kidnapped a head of state. It attacked Iran a little while ago. No matter to Canada or Europe though—that’s not them. But Greenland? Oh my, that’s not the Second or Third World. That’s us.

Values? Values talk. Only.

People will belly-ache about the bogeymen Russia and China. And it will work because they’re bogeymen. Not because of values. Values is just a mutually self-reinforcing delusion.

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Post by fritzorino »

lenerdenator wrote: post #460
fritzorino wrote: post #286

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Trump doesn't care about values at all, he cares about money more than anyone else does. I find it laughable you can even talk about values whilst having that main in charge of your country. And so what if he turns around and goes "ha your values are worthless". Trump is a literal paedophile and a literal rapist. Why should we accept being brow beat by such a man? So? We're moving on without you.

> Trump doesn't care about values at all, he cares about money more than anyone else does. That's exactly what I'm saying. He's going to use this sort of deal as an example to Canadians that when it all comes down to it, they're no better than he is. He's going to say that you're perfectly fine talking trade deals with authoritarians who are literally abducting Chinese nationals on Canadian soil and doing God-knows-w…

Sorry but Canadians are better than Trump :)
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