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SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by bawolff »

bccdee wrote: post #453
Alupis wrote: post #363

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My take away from this link is not what Adafruit probably wants. > we told sparkfun they needed to get their house in order > that was the big issue i wanted them to get some hr training on, or _something_ You don't tell or demand another company do something with their own employees. There's more professional ways of dealing with a situation like this. Request a meeting. Send a calm, collected, professional email to…

> You don't tell or demand another company do something with their own employees. Depends what they did. Let's check the forum post… > they had created and promoted hate sites, photoshopped images, and harassment targeting limor, me, and others at adafruit. this was done on company time, shared, promoted. Ok yeah if a company is sharing bigoted photoshops of my likeness, yes, I'm gonna demand that they discipline the…

It sounds like the allegations are for things that was be illegal in nature.

I think the expected way to handle something like this would be to write the calm factual email. If that goes nowhere then sue them. I don't think the public airing approach is the right one.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by garbagewoman »

1shooner wrote: post #430

This makes me think of Park Tools. Park sells bicycle tools. They design and produce an amazing breadth of products. They also produce an incredibly valuable library of instructional content about how to use these tools. Calvin Jones, their director of education, just announced his retirement after 28 years. Anyway, they just teach you how to do the thing. They somehow haven't gotten into internet squabbles with thei…

Why does this make you think of park tools?

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by garbagewoman »

drastic9 wrote: post #190
Dangeranger wrote: post #120

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This post [0] suggests that leadership at SparkFun has been engaged in a long term harassment campaign targeting the founder of AdaFruit (Limor Fried) using company resources, and is allegedly using their CoC as a smokescreen to cover up their own bad behavior and cast blame on the victim. [0] https://forum.pjrc.com/index.php?threads/open-source-teensy-...

Yeah but this post is not necessarily the truth. This person has ahem interesting history. https://chaos.social/@North/115605819126197877

Give a summary of your thoughts on the linked page

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by johnwalkr »

mschuster91 wrote: post #82
aaronblohowiak wrote: post #75

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What’s the deal with 5v, 3.3v and 24v “standards” for sensors? It seems like there are really three different markets and it sucks because crossing “lanes” is really annoying. I like how you all made the qwik connectors “just work”, but now that I’m trying more industrial stuff I’m having a hard time figuring out how to get my 24v world to play nicely with the 3.3v world but of course my 24v world only wants to do SP…

> What’s the deal with 5v, 3.3v and 24v “standards” for sensors? Historical garbage and different manufacturing technologies. Be happy if you can get away with only 5V and 3V3 rails in your project. 24V is usually to interface with industrial sensors. And sometimes you see 12V as well, for stuff that's RS232 based. And on top of that you got a fifth standard, 4..20 mA current loops. That one is used for long range tr…

Those voltage standards are kind of meant for very local things. If you really get into industrial things, one should look to industrial standards that work over longer distances. That is things like RS422, RS485, and increasingly industrial versions of ethernet that use differential signals. One should also learn what a PLC is and understand that in an industrial context, implementing controls in an Arduino or rpi is probably reinventing the wheel to achieve less reliability than industry standards.

4 to 20mA sensors are great. Invented in the 50s (!) to replace pneumatic controls and to this day work great. iirc they are usually 24V these days. You missed an important detail; the first 4mA (96mW) powers the sensor/local microcontroller (no local power supply required), and the remaining 4-20mA gives a calibrated current output for voltage/pressure/whatever you are measuring. If the output is less than 4mA or more than 20mA you know something is wrong (and many devices will output 20.1, 20.2 etc currents as a kind of fault code).

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by shrubble »

ptorrone wrote: post #21

hi, phil here — post on adafruit here: https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/01/12/discontinuing-the-teens... i’ll stop back and answer anything (sparkfun will not?). sparkfun is the exclusive maker and distributor of the closed-source teensy and informed us we will not be able to purchase the teensy. this happened after i sent an email reporting the founder, nate, for multiple harassing actions directed at limor, including…

Can you design with the STM32N657 at a good price point? 800mhz, maybe faster than the Teensy 4.1?

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by [deleted] »

refulgentis wrote: post #387
Alupis wrote: post #374

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I understand you're pretty upset with the situation, and I can't blame you. But I never should be reading about any of this on public forums. It doesn't reflect well on you or Adafruit. Now an outcome has been chosen for you, without your input. The situation is probably irreconcilable. That's not the position you ever want to be in. Obviously. If the situation was untenable, after your reasonable and private attempt…

You must be misunderstanding: the public post you are linking is from the party you are not talking to, and was the first publicly published thing, which if I'm reading correctly, is the sin to you.

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Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by Brian_K_White »

ahepp wrote: post #287
nikdoof wrote: post #217

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Honestly, if I received an email like this from the MD of a customer, I'd probably want to wash my hands of them as well https://gist.github.com/NPoole/df0ec196ac1db7e6eecfd2496b9b4...

Setting aside any concept of who's "right" or "wrong", if I got an email like this from the MD of a customer, I'd share it with my team, we'd all laugh a bit, take a deep breath, and find a way to de-escalate the situation. Similarly if I were buying product from a supplier and they made an immature joke I found hurtful, I would probably just ignore it. If it was a recurring problem maybe I'd say "I really didn't app…

Everyone necessarily, axiomatically, thinks that the way they react to things is reasonable.

But not all other modes of existence are automatically unreasonable even if they are different from one's own definition of reasonable.

Even if I would opt to ignore something like that in some paticular case for whatever my reasons are, I would rarely presume to suggest that someone else should ignore something like that for whatever my reasons are.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by Kevcmk »

ptorrone wrote: post #21

hi, phil here — post on adafruit here: https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/01/12/discontinuing-the-teens... i’ll stop back and answer anything (sparkfun will not?). sparkfun is the exclusive maker and distributor of the closed-source teensy and informed us we will not be able to purchase the teensy. this happened after i sent an email reporting the founder, nate, for multiple harassing actions directed at limor, including…

I live and DIE FOR ADAFRUIT

Seems plain that the PR Release was crafted with intent

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