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Re: Backing up Spotify

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Can this last?

I envision an army of lawyers and cyber security companies being prepared to unleash a scorched earth campaign that book publishers might want to be part of as well.

At the end it may take down more than just this publication but most others as well.

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Incredible. > A while ago, we discovered a way to scrape Spotify at scale. They wont and shouldn’t divulge the details, but I imagine that would be a fun read!

How they manage to transfer 300TB of data while remaining anonymous is also astonishing.

Rent a dedicated server, setup mullvad wireguard on it or whatever. Download stuff to said server using wireguard.

Sure, you can also use Tor. The people engaged in copyright-related illegality generally don't.

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It's hard to imagine anything but physical egress for that kind of volume.

50 free accounts continually streaming music rack up 20 TB in a month. So that would take about 1.5 years. Our you use 750 accounts and do it in a month. I would say it's weird they don't rate limit accounts but probably having a device play music pretty much all the time isn't even that rare of a use case.

You can probably just buy a thousand hacked spotify accounts for not much more than $1 a piece

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I think they build the demo with pirated music, but it was licensed by the time customers started paying for it.

Correct, the pirated music library was before they exited the closed Alpha.

No, that's what they ran on when the general public could join on a referral basis. They called that "beta".

The technology was already proven, i.e. The Pirate Bay and other torrent networks had already been a success for years. What Spotify likely aimed to show was that they could grow very fast and that their growth was too good to just shut down, like the entertainment industry tried to do with TPB.

After they took in the entertainment oligarchs they cut out the warez and substituted with licensed material.

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> The thing is, this doesn't even seem particularly useful for average consumers/listeners, since Spotify itself is so convenient, and trying to locate individual tracks in massive torrent files of presumably 10,000's of tracks each sounds horrible. I wouldn’t be so sure. There are already tools to automatically locate and stream pirated TV and movie content automatic and on demand. They’re so common that I had non-t…

> The Anna’s archive group is ideologically motivated. They’re definitely not doing this for AI companies. They have a page directly addressed to AI companies, offering them "enterprise-level" access to their complete archives in exchange for tens of thousands of dollars. AI may not be their original/primary motivation but they are evidently on board with facilitating AI labs piracy-maxxing.

I think there is a big legal difference between helping preserve books and papers with little regard for copyrights, to then turn around and selling access to large companies.

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Attracting the ire of the music industry seems like a huge, unnecessary risk. I wish they had performed this as some kind of other entity to try to keep the ebook archive protected from the fallout. I fear this will not end well.

They can’t be touched by the music industry they’re based in Russia.

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50 free accounts continually streaming music rack up 20 TB in a month. So that would take about 1.5 years. Our you use 750 accounts and do it in a month. I would say it's weird they don't rate limit accounts but probably having a device play music pretty much all the time isn't even that rare of a use case.

That’s if they pretend to stream the music. If they are using throwaway free accounts I imagine they can download the DRM-stripped files much more quickly.

True, but I could see them rate limiting that much more aggressively than streaming.

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You have been able to buy DRM free digital music from all of the record labels since 2009 from Apple and other stores.

Is that still the case? The option to do that quietly disappeared from Amazon Music a couple of months ago, for example, and they were one of the last few holdouts where you still could. It might be only Apple now?

There's still plenty of options around, Qobuz and 7digital in particular offer drm-free flac downloads.
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