This is so true, and I say this myself coming from an Indian education system that my vocabulary has gone through an objective optimization function similar to that of these LLMs XD
I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
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Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
#462Earlier quoted context omitted.
In English the word is “connotation.”
you know, I feel like we don't actually do that so much these days. It's simply too likely that the receiving party is going to take you at face value or make up their own deeper meaning. Take irony / sarcasm / satire. They're pretty dead compared to what they used to be. I can recall a time when just about everything had subtext, but now you kind of have to play it straight. You can't respond to a racist with sarcas…
You're right, there's absolutely no sarcasm ever seen on the internet or anywhere else. These days if you say something sarcastic they throw you in jail!
Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
#463To my eyes, this author doesn't write like ChatGPT at all. Too many people focus on the em-dashes as the giveaway for ChatGPT use, but they're a weak signal at best. The problem is that the real signs are more subtle, and the em-dash is very meme-able, so of course, armies of idiots hunt down any user of em-dashes. Update: To illustrate this, here's a comparison of a paragraph from this article: > It is a new frontie…
For me the ChatGPT one is worse due to factual inaccuracies like the "presumption of humanity" which in the human version is "afforded so easily to others" - fair enough and with the LLM "presumption of humanity that others receive without question" which is not true - lots of people get questioned.
Beyond the stylistics bits "history—my history" which I don't really mind what make it bad to me is detachment from reality.
Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
#464Earlier quoted context omitted.
Armies of idiots hunt down em dashes because they're too stupid to understand the proper use of them.
They are probably like me: if punctuation isn't on my keyboard, I don't use it.
>They are probably like me: if punctuation isn't on my keyboard, I don't use it.
LPT: on Android, pressing and holding a punctuation key on the on-screen keyboard reveals additional variations of it — like the em-dash, for example.
This is the №1 feature I expect everyone to know about (and explore!), but, alas, it doesn't appear to be the case even on Hackernews¹.
On Windows, pressing Win+. pops up an on-screen character keyboard with all the symbols one may need (including math symbols and emojis).
MacOS has a similar functionality IIRC.
And let's not forget that software like MS Word automatically correct dashes to em-dashes when appropriate — and some people may simply prefer typing text in a word processor and copy-pasting from it.
Anyway...
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¹ For example, holding "1" yields the superscript version, enabling one to format footnotes properly with less effort than using references in brackets², yet few people choose to do that.
² E.g. [2]
Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
#465Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, case in point: If you ask an AI to grade an essay, it will grade the essay highest that it wrote itself.
Citations on this?
https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.06651 (in German, hopefully machine translation works well)
English article:
https://www.heise.de/en/news/38C3-AI-tools-must-be-evaluated...
If you speak German, here is their talk from 38c3: https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-chatbots-im-schulunterricht
Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
#466Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, case in point: If you ask an AI to grade an essay, it will grade the essay highest that it wrote itself.
Is this true though? I haven't done the experiment, but I can envision the LLM critiquing its own output (if it was created in a different session) and iteratively correcting it and always finding flaws in it. Are LLMs even primed to say "this is perfect and it needs no further improvements"? What I have seen is ChatGPT and Claude battling it out, always correcting and finding fault with each other's output (trying t…
There is a study in German that came to this conclusion, there's an english news article discussing it at https://heise.de/-10222370
Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
#467> There were unspoken rules, commandments passed down from teacher to student, year after year. The first commandment? Thou shalt begin with a proverb or a powerful opening statement. “Haste makes waste,” we would write, before launching into a tale about rushing to the market and forgetting the money. The second? Thou shalt demonstrate a wide vocabulary. You didn’t just ‘walk’; you ‘strode purposefully’, ‘trudged we…
Funny that in science fiction robotic voices were always the ones without adverbs and adjectives
Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
#468Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sam Altman decided to irresponsibly talk bullshit about parenting because yes, he needed that marketing sound bite. I cannot believe someone will wonder how people managed to decode "my baby dropped pizza and then giggled" before LLMs. I mean, if someone is honestly terrified about the answer to this life-or-death question and cannot figure out life without an LLM, they probably shouldn't be a parent. Then again, Alt…
That’s not the questions people will ask though. They’ll go “what body temperature is too high?” Baby temperatures are not the same as ours. The threshold for fevers and such are different. They will ask “how much water should my newborn drink?” That’s a dangerous thing to get wrong (outside of certain circumstances, the answer is “none.” Milk/formula provides necessary hydration). They will ask about healthy food al…
Agreed. I wasn't defending Altman!
Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
#469Earlier quoted context omitted.
Non-native English speaker here. I would not understand the last two sentences. Sidle? Tromp? I don't think I've seen these words enough times for them to register in my mind. "Strode", I would probably understand after a few seconds of squeezing my brain. I mean, I sort of know "stride", but not as an action someone would take. Rather as the number of bytes a row of pixels takes in a pixel buffer. I would have to ex…
English is hard, even for native speakers. But it's also wonderful! English loves to steal words from other languages, and good writers love to choose the right word. It's like having an expansive wardrobe and picking just the right outfit for every event. Bad writers, of course, pick a word to make them seem smarter (which, of course, often fails). That's what the OP was complaining about: using a fancy word just to…
> English is hard, even for native speakers. But it's also wonderful! English loves to steal words from other languages, and good writers love to choose the right word. It's like having an expansive wardrobe and picking just the right outfit for every event.
Very true. Take this passage:
‘I am called Strider,’ he said in a low voice. ‘I am very pleased to meet you, Master – Underhill, if old Butterbur got your name right.’
In an early draft Tolkien used a different word as the character was originally a hobbit, rather than a long-legged Ranger:
‘I’m Trotter,’ he said in a low voice. ‘I am very pleased to meet you, Mr — Hill, if old Barnabas had your name right?’
Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me
#470> There were unspoken rules, commandments passed down from teacher to student, year after year. The first commandment? Thou shalt begin with a proverb or a powerful opening statement. “Haste makes waste,” we would write, before launching into a tale about rushing to the market and forgetting the money. The second? Thou shalt demonstrate a wide vocabulary. You didn’t just ‘walk’; you ‘strode purposefully’, ‘trudged we…
There's a bit of a perceptory gap.
If a Native bends the language it comes accross as intentional.
If (For example) I do with my heavy accented ESL it usually comes accoss as lack of competency.
Same goes for simple language, y'all get the benefit of assumed fluency, we usually do not