- ~1 billion users in just 3 years - Extremely personal data on users - Novel way of introducing and learning more about sponsored products - Strong branding for non-techie people (most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are) - An app that is getting more and more addictive/indispensable I think OpenAI is going to kill it in ads eventually. This is why Meta and Google went all in on AI. Their lucrative di…
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It's true, but many services nowadays (if not most) offer an ad-free service at full price. People confuse "ad-subsidized" with "I pay and still see ads". They're not the same thing. And market studies show that people overwhelmingly prefer ads over payments.
Do market studies show that people prefer ad subsidized with payments over payments?
This is not a clear cut example because Prime comes with a lot of other benefits which is a confounding factor. Might be worth looking at cable TV subscription numbers after they introduced ads, but I couldn't find any data with a quick search.
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#463IMO OpenAI is the contemporary manifestation of the sort of eugenicist thought that infected and eventually haunted the United States and Europe in the 19th and 20th centuries. I can't speak for other cultures, but as an English-language speaker, I can see plainly that OpenAI has done and is doing an effective job of homogenizing English language culture. It offends me that ChatGPT is too conservative to analyze Shak…
Also wtf. Sure, jazz has been classicised all over by now, but to say that showtunes are low-brow compared to jazz is profoundly stupid :P That's why you don't believe AI without critical thinking!
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#464I guess this could also have a knock-on effect, in that ChatGPT will steer it's users away from topics advertisers might find distasteful Like it might not want to tell you about negative health effects from McDonalds, if McDonalds becomes a major source of ad revenue
A modern Turing Test might honestly be "tell me something positive about [forbidden topic]."
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> most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are In think the point is that they don’t need to know what Gemini is, they just need to know Google, which they most definitely do. IMO ads rollout won’t be as simple as you’re describing it. A lot of people have switched from Google search to AI specifically because it isn’t filled with SEO, ad filled nonsense. So they’ll need to tread very, very carefully to in…
I can't wait for the instructions to start having ads embedded. 2. Place the turkey in your GE Two in One Oven set to 350, cooking for 10 minutes a lbs. 3. While waiting for your Turkey to finish cooking, why not have an ice cold Coke Zero? Click here for nearby locations. 4. Remove Turkey from the oven, let rest for ten minutes while listening to Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars sing "Die with a Smile" on Spotify.
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> So they’ll need to tread very, very carefully to introduce it without alienating customers. every single platform since the 1990's has introduced ads. My kids find it totally normal to have them. Believe me, if you train (!) people to accept ads, they will soon think it's normal. And besides, if ChatGPT goes with ads, Google will follow directly. So the users won't have the choice anymore. But ok, if I have to pay…
Counter point - my kid hates ads. I've worked to keep them away from him and whenever they do sneak through he gets irritated at them.
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#467Briefly, I had an old Surface Pro whose SSD had died, and given that disassembly was too cumbersome, I wanted to fix it by booting off an external drive. So I wanted a USB drive or microSD card that was fast, durable and spacious enough to support my Windows version for typical usage over extended periods of time, but also small and light enough to keep perma-attached without being too cumbersome, for a reasonable budget.
I explained my requirements in a conversation with ChatGPT and after some back and forth, especially about the physical characteristics of the ideal drive, it eventually recommended 3 very specific USB drives. Those were then my starting point for a search on Amazon, and I did end up buying a closely related product.
I'm not even sure if this was an intentional outcome or yet another emergent thing. But I recall thinking that a) doing this research on my own would have taken me 5x the time, and b) if ChatGPT had simply provided affiliate links to those products it could have effectively monetized that conversation. Win-win for everyone without the need for intrusive ads.
Unfortunately, the lure of ad revenue is too strong and enshittification will ensue... but it doesn't have to.
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I doubt anyone would say that given that they got into ads years before giving people the option to pay.
But the same logic applies. Youtube is not profitable without ads and would shut down.
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These days it's no surprise when you are both paying for the product and are the product as well. A lot of us learned this when cable television arrived—you paid for it, but no commercials…until there were.
It's true, but many services nowadays (if not most) offer an ad-free service at full price. People confuse "ad-subsidized" with "I pay and still see ads". They're not the same thing. And market studies show that people overwhelmingly prefer ads over payments.
Obviously if you lie to consumers you can get them to 'prefer' your product.
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ads always start on only the free version, then either the free version has a minor fee that slowly gets ratcheted up over time or the paid version gets ads and theres a higher no ad tier version added.
Not true. Spotify, YouTube, prime.