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Not to come down on either side, but I am begging commenters to refrain from using a Eurocentric lens when discussing a technology that wasn't even invented in Europe.
Ah, you think nothing is better than something?
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Ah, you think nothing is better than something?
Pointing out a problem without providing a solution is still better than pretending that the problem doesn't exist and suffering the consequences of a flawed mental model.
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You should look in a mirror (and proofread). Everything you're accusing me of applies to you. It's an overwrought reaction which indicates that I hit a nerve. You'd better soothe that ego bruise with a bit of curiosity, than with the tantrum you've been throwing.
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It's not complicated because "bosses" accomplish this by saying "let's reduce the cost of doing business" to someone who actually does whatever is needed. The value of a boss/manager when there's no employees to do the work is negative. AI won't change this.
> "bosses" accomplish this by saying "let's reduce the cost of doing business" to someone who actually does whatever is needed I don't know where you work, but in my experience, headcount reductions are strictly a top-down exercise. At best, the bosses may ask line managers who the essential people on their teams are. At worst, they get handed a list of people to fire, and they themselves may get the boot right after…
Even the execution of "reducing head count" is done by everyone else.
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Consciousness is a physical phenomenon; rainbows, their ends, and pots of gold at them are not.
I'm well aware that many people are wrong about consciousness and have been misled by Searle, Chalmers, Nagel, et. al. Numbers like 55% are argumentum ad populum and are completely irrelevant. The sample space matters ... I've been to the "[Towards a] Science of Consciousness" conferences and they are full of cranks and loony tunes, and even among respectable intelligent philosophers of mind there is little knowledge…
Ok, so are LLMs conscious? And if not, what’s the difference between them and a human brain - what distinguishes a non-conscious machine from a conscious entity? And if the consciousness is a consequence of computation, what causes the qualitative change from blind, machine like execution of instructions? How would such a shift in the fundamental nature of mechanical computation even be possible?
No neuroscientist currently knows the answer to this, and neither do you. That’s a direct manifestation of the hard problem of consciousness.
> I've partied with David Chalmers
Sadly, not at an intellectual level.
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You should look in a mirror (and proofread). Everything you're accusing me of applies to you. It's an overwrought reaction which indicates that I hit a nerve. You'd better soothe that ego bruise with a bit of curiosity, than with the tantrum you've been throwing.
You tackled a contributing member of our community into the mud. I tackled you into the mud. We are not the same.
But I suppose this analogy reveals that your tack is fundamentally European. So, at least you're consistent. What would be better is if you'd have some humility. Say it with me now: "We forgot to consider prior art because it originated from a part of the world that we tend to fail to acknowledge. This failure adulterated our analysis with an inferior premise. Thank you for pointing this out. We will now make a more appropriate analysis using research on the subject that was previously in our blindspot."
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Pointing out a problem without providing a solution is still better than pretending that the problem doesn't exist and suffering the consequences of a flawed mental model.
Pointing out a problem is one thing, I don't think anyone here would object to that especially given normal nerd dynamics, but you did also beg everyone to refrain from speaking of things they're most likely to actually know anything about.
You know exactly why this in particular hits a nerve.