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Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by charliebwrites »

throwaway13337 wrote: post #439

I gave it a fair shot. It is a vs code fork. There were some UI glitches. Some usability was better. Cursor has some real annoying usability issues - like their previous/next code change never going away and no way to disable it. Design of this one looks more polished and less muddy. I was working on a project and just continued with it. It was easy because they import setting from cursor. Feels like the browser wars…

> It is a vs code fork

Google may have won the browser wars with Chrome, but Microsoft seems to be winning the IDE wars with VSCode

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by throwawaysleep »

shoelessone wrote: post #438

I really don't know why I struggle so much with this stuff. I believe these models / agents / whatever write code that is often at least as good as the code I write, and they are super helpful tools, but it just feels like it takes away so much of the joy that is programming to me. I'm not saying it's "right" of me to feel this way, but for me the struggle, and the figuring things out by testing, identifying patterns…

It is kind of joyless that my day is now wait 20 min, QA, report back.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by kevstev »

lbrito wrote: post #416

The agentic spam is exhausting. I just wanted to code. Too early in my career to not give a shit and retire, but too late be excited about these things and eager to learn. What a time...

I feel this. Tbh I was excited about most of the previous tech fads I have come across. Sure, people got overzealous with them and also failed to realize that what F*NG needs is not what your three person startup needs, but there were always some good and interesting ideas there.

This just feels... a little too dystopian. Companies hoovered up the entirety more or less of all of our collective thoughts and writings and output and now want to sell it back to us- and I fear that cost is going to be extremely steep.

It's impressive, but at the same time, just feels like its going to somehow be a net detractor to society, and yet I feel I need to keep up with each new iteration or potentially get washed over and left behind by the wave.

I am somewhat fortunate to be towards the top of the pyramid and also in a position where I could theoretically ride off into the sunset, but I fear the societal implications and the pain that is going to come for vast numbers of people.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by noduerme »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #451
shermantanktop wrote: post #444

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- don't learn from what you tell them - don't have career growth that you can feel good about having contributed to - don't have a genuine interest in accomplishment or team goals - have no past and no future. When you change companies, they won't recognize you in the hall. - no ownership over results. If they make a mistake, they won't suffer.

- don't learn from what you tell them We'll fix that, eventually. - don't have career growth that you can feel good about having contributed to Humans are on the verge of building machines that are smarter than we are. I feel pretty goddamned awesome about that. It's what we're supposed to be doing. - don't have a genuine interest in accomplishment or team goals Easy to train for, if it turns out to be necessary. I'd…

Replace suffering with caring and have your AI write that again.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by vovavili »

charliebwrites wrote: post #461
throwaway13337 wrote: post #439

I gave it a fair shot. It is a vs code fork. There were some UI glitches. Some usability was better. Cursor has some real annoying usability issues - like their previous/next code change never going away and no way to disable it. Design of this one looks more polished and less muddy. I was working on a project and just continued with it. It was easy because they import setting from cursor. Feels like the browser wars…

> It is a vs code fork Google may have won the browser wars with Chrome, but Microsoft seems to be winning the IDE wars with VSCode

I wouldn't bet on an Electron app winning anything long-term in the dev-oriented space.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by AstroBen »

charliebwrites wrote: post #461
throwaway13337 wrote: post #439

I gave it a fair shot. It is a vs code fork. There were some UI glitches. Some usability was better. Cursor has some real annoying usability issues - like their previous/next code change never going away and no way to disable it. Design of this one looks more polished and less muddy. I was working on a project and just continued with it. It was easy because they import setting from cursor. Feels like the browser wars…

> It is a vs code fork Google may have won the browser wars with Chrome, but Microsoft seems to be winning the IDE wars with VSCode

In user numbers, maybe. JetBrains is far ahead in actual developer experience though

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by AstroBen »

shermantanktop wrote: post #444
sorokod wrote: post #435

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"junior developers" is a convenient label, it is incorrect but it will take a bit until we come up something that describes entities that: - can write code - tireless - have no aspirations - have no stylistic or architectural preferences - have massive, but at the same time not well defined, body of knowledge - have no intrinsic memories of past interactions. - change in unexpected ways when underlying models change…

- don't learn from what you tell them - don't have career growth that you can feel good about having contributed to - don't have a genuine interest in accomplishment or team goals - have no past and no future. When you change companies, they won't recognize you in the hall. - no ownership over results. If they make a mistake, they won't suffer.

Imagine having these complaints about a screwdriver

It's a tool, not an intelligent being

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by wnevets »

vovavili wrote: post #465
charliebwrites wrote: post #461

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is a vs code fork Google may have won the browser wars with Chrome, but Microsoft seems to be winning the IDE wars with VSCode

I wouldn't bet on an Electron app winning anything long-term in the dev-oriented space.

Even if those devs are vibe-oriented?

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by verdverm »

vovavili wrote: post #465
charliebwrites wrote: post #461

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is a vs code fork Google may have won the browser wars with Chrome, but Microsoft seems to be winning the IDE wars with VSCode

I wouldn't bet on an Electron app winning anything long-term in the dev-oriented space.

why? I don't have a problem with it, building extensions for VS Code is pretty easy

Alternatives have a lot of features to implement to reach parity

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