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It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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I don't get all this complaining, TBH. I have been blogging for over 25 years (20+ on the same site), been using em dashes ever since I switched to a Mac (and because the Markdown parser I use converts double dashes to it, which I quite like when I'm banging out text in vim), and have made it a point of running long-form posts through an LLM asking it to critique my text for readability because I have a tendency for…

The complaint is because people (marketers and people marketing themselves) are not using it that way, and instead are using it to generate low value blogspam.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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s/important/significant/, then, if that helps make the point clearer. I cannot tell you that it objectively matters whether or not an article was written by a human or an LLM, but it should be clear to anybody that it is at least a significant difference in kind vs. the analogy case of handwriting vs. typing. I think somebody who won't acknowledge that is either being intellectually dishonest, or has already had thei…

I wasn't even arguing with you, nor saying that it doesn't matter to me, rather just pointing an out an observation. > I think somebody who won't acknowledge that is either being intellectually dishonest, or has already had their higher cognitive functions rotted away by excessive reliance on LLMs to do their thinking for them. This feels too aggressive for a good faith discussion on this site. Even if you do think t…

> I wasn't even arguing with you, nor saying that it doesn't matter to me, rather just pointing an out an observation.

My interpretation of your comment was that it related to my use of the word "important", which has a more subjective connotation than "significant" and arguably allows my comment to be interpreted in two ways. The second way (that I feel people should care more about the distinction I highlighted) was not my intended meaning, since obviously people can care about whatever they want. It was a relevant observation of imprecise wording on my part.

> there's no point in insulting the humans who could engage with you in that conversation.

There would be no point in engaging them in that conversation, either.

Disagreeing with me that the difference in kind I highlighted is important is fine, and maybe even an interesting conversation for both sides. Disagreeing with me that there is a significant difference in kind is just nonsensical, like arguing that there's no meaningful difference, at any level, between painting a painting yourself and buying one from a store. How can you approach a conversation like that? Yet positions like that appear in internet arguments all the time, which are generally arguments between anonymous strangers who often have no qualms about embracing total intellectual dishonesty because the[ir] goal is just to make their opponent mad enough that they forget the original point they were trying to make and go chasing the goalposts all over the room.

The only winning move is not to play, which requires being honest with yourself about who you're talking to and what they're trying to get out of the conversation. I am willing to share that honesty.

I am, to be clear, not saying you are one of these people.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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"but I don't think I can get angry at them for producing useful content the wrong way" What about plagiarism? If a person hacks together a blog post that is arguably useful but they plagiarized half of it from another person, is that acceptable to you? Is it only acceptable if it's mechanized? One of the arguments against GenAI is that the output is basically plagiarized from other sources -- that is, of course, over…

My personal thoughts on gen AI are complicated. A lot of my public work was vacuumed up for gen AI, and I'm not benefitting from it in any real way. But for text, I think we already lost that argument. To the average person, LLMs are too useful to reject them on some ultimately muddied arguments along the lines of "it's OK for humans to train on books, but it's not OK for robots". Mind you, it pains me to write this.…

I don't think that ship has sailed as far as you suggest: There are strong proponents of LLMs/GenAI, but not IMO many more than NFTs, cryptocurrencies, and other technologies that ultimately did not hit mainstream adoption.

I don't think GenAI or LLMs are going away entirely - but I'm not convinced that they are inevitable and must be adopted, either. Then again, I'm mostly a hold-out when it comes to things like self checkout, too. I'd rather wait a bit longer in line to help ensure a human has a job than rush through self-checkout if it means some poor soul is going to be out of work.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Yes, that’s the hard thing about having a “what changed” section in the PR template. I agree with you, but generally put a very condensed summary of what changed to fulfill the PR template expectations. Not the worst compromise

My template: 1. What is this change supposed to do? 2. Why is this change needed? 3. How was it tested? 4. Is there anything else reviewers should know? 5. Link to issue: There's no "What changed?" because that's the diff. Explain your intent, why you think it's a good idea, how you know you accomplished your intent, and any future work needed or other concerns noticed while making the change. PR descriptions suffer…

It's same same issue we had 20 years ago with javadoc. Write what you want to do, not how you do it.

i++; // increment i (by 1)

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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I don't agree entirely with this. I know why the LLM wrote the code that way. Because I told it to and _I_ know why I want the code that way. If people are letting the LLM decide how the code will be written then I think they're using them wrong and yes 100% they won't understand the code as well as if they had written it by hand. LLMs are just good pattern matchers and can spit out text faster than humans, so that's…

> Anything that requires actual brainpower and thinking is still my domain. I just type a lot less than I used to. And that's a problem. By typing out the code, your brain has time to process its implications and reflect on important implementation details, something you lose out on almost entirely when letting an LLM generate it. Obviously, your high-level intentions and architectural planning are not tied to typing…

The best time to debug is when writing code.

The best time to review is when writing code.

The best time to iterate on design is when writing code.

Writing code is a lot more than typing. It's the whole chimichanga

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Why have the LLMs „learned“ to write PRs (and other stuff) this way? This style was definitely not mainstream on Github (or Reddit) pre-LLMs, was it? It’s strange how AI style is so easy to spot. If LLMs just follow the style that they encountered most frequently during training, wouldn’t that mean that their style would be especially hard to spot?

This is total speculation, but my guess is that human reviewers of AI-written text (whether code or natural language) are more likely to think that the text with emoji check marks, or dart-targets, or whatever, are correct. (My understanding is that many of these models are fine-tuned using humans who manually review their outputs.) In other words, LLMs were inadvertently trained to seem correct, and a little message…

AI sounds weird because most of the human reviewers are ESL.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Coke Zero and Diet Coke are both noncaloric.

If you’re playing the same games they play on the label, sure. There is less than one calorie per serving. (Edit: in Diet Coke. Not too sure about Coke Zero).

What game is played? To me it seems pretty straightforward that for both the actual caloric content is ~0.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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post #468

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If you’re playing the same games they play on the label, sure. There is less than one calorie per serving. (Edit: in Diet Coke. Not too sure about Coke Zero).

What game is played? To me it seems pretty straightforward that for both the actual caloric content is ~0.

I believe it’s .4 calories per serving which is less than one and which rounds down to zero, but it’s not approximately zero by a long shot.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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I've always been bad at grammar, and wrote a lot of newsletters & blogs for my first startups which always got great feedback, but also lots of grammar complaints. Really happy GPT is so great at catching those nowadays, saves me a lot of Grammar supports requests ;)

Or just get better? I don’t know how someone can be nerdy enough to be on Hackernews, but simultaneously not nerdy enough to pickup and intuit the rules of English language from sheer osmosis.

Im not a native english speaker, but even in my own language I make many mistakes. I'm happy I can spend my time coding instead of going back to school :)
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