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Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by c0balt »

CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #443
nekusar wrote: post #424

So, basically, MinIO is dead. Time to move on, folks. Dead horse is dead. Kicking it will release toxic decomposition sludge.

Fun, I had just started using it as a the data store for a distributed Rust compilation cache, guess we're moving that somewhere else. Hopefully the choice of NixOS as our server OS will make this easier rather than harder. What alternatives do people recommend that has at least similar features-set and at least similar performance as MinIO?

Garage works, has good NixOS support too.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by snihalani »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #430
WhyNotHugo wrote: post #427

Maintaining docker builds isn’t that huge of a burden (and likely very useful for them too), and they’re delegating hosting to a third party… I don’t get what they’re trying to achieve here.

Money

this. They want to show more paid subscribers to VCs and enabling open source is eating their lunch

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by aerostable_slug »

forgetfulness wrote: post #453
benterix wrote: post #445

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sad to break it to you but it was 30 years ago. We have a tendency to stick to what we know but everything changes constantly and us being connected amplifies that.

I imagine that this makes it much less viable for hobby use, or as a dependency for other open source projects, but setting up a private docker registry and building this image nightly isn’t onerous for any business

The fact that these things are happening at all is enough for us to shop for alternatives. MinIO will be completely gone as soon as we identify the best option and get it rolled out, which should be rather quickly.

If they were hoping to drive conversions to paying customers, they've done the opposite, at least with my employer.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by NewJazz »

ecshafer wrote: post #435

Ceph is an open source project run by a foundation. Minio is a company backed by VCs looking for a return. There is also seaweedfs, powerscale, openstack swift and hyperstore. The S3 compatible space is crowded.

Curious about one thing - does Ceph's s3 compatible api support oidc based auth? We used to use this with minio before switching to aws s3 and using presigned URLs.

https://docs.min.io/enterprise/aistor-object-store/administr...

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by aerostable_slug »

reconnecting wrote: post #428
Pet_Ant wrote: post #423

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well some say 'all publicity is good publicity', I think in this case it has hurt MinIO more than anything as far as public adoption is concerned.

I believe it's too early to judge public adoption. Let's see in a few years if it degrades somehow. For now, they jumped from 55,880 to 56,319 GitHub stars in one day. From the product side, I don't see how this should affect new adopters who didn't read the hn post yesterday

Pure anecdata: the fact that this is happening at all has us (at work) looking for alternatives. Once we finalize on the best one we'll swap out MinIO permanently. I can't imagine we're the only ones, but who knows?

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by pixl97 »

idkcomputers wrote: post #459
elAhmo wrote: post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is not the problem here.

You're right. This is like they've stopped offering free gift wrapping. You can take it home in the plain package for free if you want.

It's been talked to death in other threads already, but typically when you provide a service, even if it's free, it is polite to give warning that you will stop providing said service in the future.

If they are trying to push people to commercial services I typically attempt to steer away from companies that make rash decisions with a moments notice, rather than ones that would leave you high and dry.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by vbezhenar »

reconnecting wrote: post #457
vbezhenar wrote: post #440

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're trying to force some free users to pay them for binary builds.

Are they? I even checked the pricing page, and there is no mention of any builds as paid features.

https://www.min.io/download?platform=docker

https://docs.min.io/enterprise/aistor-object-store/installat...

    podman pull quay.io/minio/aistor/minio:latest
    podman run minio/aistor/minio --version
So I suppose those are official binaries which require license to use.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by reconnecting »

aerostable_slug wrote: post #465
reconnecting wrote: post #428

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe it's too early to judge public adoption. Let's see in a few years if it degrades somehow. For now, they jumped from 55,880 to 56,319 GitHub stars in one day. From the product side, I don't see how this should affect new adopters who didn't read the hn post yesterday

Pure anecdata: the fact that this is happening at all has us (at work) looking for alternatives. Once we finalize on the best one we'll swap out MinIO permanently. I can't imagine we're the only ones, but who knows?

If you use this tech, perhaps you could explain what the real issue is behind dropping Docker? I mean, it's still AGPL licensed — why can't you use it from source?

In other words, what is the significant difference for your team that's worth changing the stack and navigating through the uncertainty of an alternative product?

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by nicce »

It is unfortunate, but somewhere you need to draw the line, if you are planning to stop releases. If they fix this, how about the next? Why fix this one but not the next CVE? Is the reaction same next time and they end up fixing endlessly?

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by reconnecting »

vbezhenar wrote: post #467
reconnecting wrote: post #457

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are they? I even checked the pricing page, and there is no mention of any builds as paid features.

https://www.min.io/download?platform=docker https://docs.min.io/enterprise/aistor-object-store/installat... podman pull quay.io/minio/aistor/minio:latest podman run minio/aistor/minio --version So I suppose those are official binaries which require license to use.

I mean, what's the difference in pricing between AGPL and a commercial license? €50k/year? €100k/year?

Do you think Docker binaries are something that could hypothetically drive conversion from AGPL users to commercial licenses?

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