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Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by intermerda »

tpmoney wrote: post #444
Tadpole9181 wrote: post #380

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Oh, please . Senators do not head the department of justice and requested , not demanded under threat of retribution under a "unitary executive". For them to do anything would require a quorum of 50% of the entire government to make a law.

Sure but Senators actually have the power to make law, unlike the executive. Also let’s be honest, if any government official “requests” anything it is always under the threat of retribution. See also the Jimmy Kimmel situation.

> Also let’s be honest, if any government official “requests” anything it is always under the threat of retribution.

If you wanted to be honest you would say this government, not any government.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by godelski »

angoragoats wrote: post #349
godelski wrote: post #301

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Okay, but that's not what's being asked now is it? What's being asked is the explanation . They aren't telling saying to the public "we love the taste of boots" even if it is true.

No one would ever say this explicitly, but Tim Cook has very clearly shown it by his own personal actions and those of his company.

Okay, but you haven't answered the question either.

Do you not think I'm not aware that Apple is bending the knee? I'm pretty confident JumpCrissCross knows that too.

The question isn't about what's underneath the mask. The question is about what the mask is. What they're pretending the actual reason is. No one here is asking for the real reason because we're already aware. We're indicating it in the comments too. So by trying to tell us what's beneath the mask you're just creating more noise and making it harder to identify the mask

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by fzeroracer »

JuniperMesos wrote: post #294
magicalist wrote: post #188

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> This isn't specific to ICE It absolutely is specific to ICE when they get to do it to 125 apartment units at once by taking everybody in an entire building, regardless of immigration status, and detaining them for hours, then leaving them with smashed doors and broken possessions. But, oh, it's "been contested for a while", so let's definitely downplay it.

The power to detain a bunch of people for hours when it's not clear if any of them have committed a crime is a power the cops already have, and use from time to time. And ordinary city cops, not just ICE specifically.

Right but the difference is in both scale and rationale. Do you believe it would be acceptable for your door to be broken down and all of your stuff confiscated because you happened to live in the same building as an illegal immigrant? Because that is the literal event we're talking about here.

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Post by permo-w »

VladVladikoff wrote: post #104
fearless1ron wrote: post #80

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I agree with you, but can we stop calling installing software on the hardware you own "sideloading"?

Yeah, we should just ironically lean into it even harder and call it “backdooring”. Jokes aside, when has pandering to people to change the status quo of colloquial word use ever worked?

"queer"?

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Post by permo-w »

cherryteastain wrote: post #313
mrinterweb wrote: post #15

Google is making it so sideloading APKs on Android is no longer possible. This is one of many great reasons why that should not happen.

Conversely, this and EU Chat Control are precisely why the powers that be will ensure it will happen. The importance of FOSS mobile OSes is greater than ever now.

if we're talking about the EU, for a provider the size of Google, not allowing third party application installs is illegal in the EU under the Digital Markets Act

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Post by sleight42 »

jajuuka wrote: post #6

Not surprising. The media hyped up the app and the admin hyper focused on it. Was bound to happen eventually since Apple wants to play nice with the government. Nice thing is it isn't the only one and others are multiplatform instead of iOS only. I'm doubtful we'll be seeing ICEblock show up in the iOS side load community.

Capital does what serves it best. Values are little more than a fig leaf in capitalism. After all, how many of us sacrifice our income for our values? A very few, indeed.

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Post by sleight42 »

yrro wrote: post #347
dandanua wrote: post #337

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Overthrown by whom? Aliens? Power supports power, there is no way out of this black hole.

The neat thing about the US is that governments are overthrown regularly by automatic operation of law: 12pm on the 20th of January 2028, in the case of the 47th president. I'm sure you know this but I feel everyone needs to remind themselves of this immutable fact regularly until then.

True. But not if the game is rigged by gerrymandering. Or a false emergency used as an excuse to delay the election. Or...
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