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Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by LtWorf »

kiliancs wrote: post #458
LtWorf wrote: post #311

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And macbooks aren't overheating? I've owned old macbooks… I got scalded by the metal screws on the bottom in the summer because apple thought looking sleek was more important than proper cooling.

The other laptops overheat soon after purchasing, often with just the bare OS running. There is a 3 yo laptop that my parents still use, but it has to always be plugged in, and the fans will spin loudly even in suspension. My >10 yo macbooks also have bad batteries. One of them won't last one minute, and will also overheat with minor workloads. They were not immune to overheating when new, but unreasonable overhearin…

Put KDE and see the overheating disappear.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by raffraffraff »

solardev wrote: post #375
spangry wrote: post #11

Oh darn, I thought they'd gotten Arch running on an M1 but they actually switched to a ThinkBook. I somewhat regret my expensive switch from Linux to MacOS. MacOS is just so weird, it doesn't make any sense to me. For the first time in my life I feel like some tech-illiterate grandpa trying to figure out how to make his blasted computer do stuff.

As someone who grew up on DOS, Windows, OS/2 and Linux, macOS definitely took some getting used to (and I still have many gripes with it, especially the window management). Rectangle makes it better: https://github.com/rxhanson/Rectangle That said, though, Macbooks are far and away the best laptop hardware you can get right now, and the combination of a POSIX/unix-like CLI environment and the ability to run common ge…

It took me two weeks of farting about with Rectangle, alttab, hammerspoon and karabiner to make MacOS not give me face cancer every time I had to use it.

I still kinda hate it because I can't get keyboard shortcuts to just fucking work. On the work MacBook I use the mouse more than I'd like because I can't reliably do stuff that I have done fluidly on windows and Linux for decades, mostly around keyboard cursor control, selection, jumping in blocks of words and paragraphs, sane use of home / end, page up/down etc. Just when I think I have it cracked, I try to select the next two words, or from cursor to end of line, and it's like "no sir, in this fucking app it does something completely different, good luck finding out why it how to fix it"

I agree about the hardware though. Since the early 2010s MacBook Pro has been the best hardware. Before the M series I had a MBP13 2015, and in fact, it's still the "kitchen laptop", running OpenSUSE Tumbleweed.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by dmacvicar »

adastra22 wrote: post #70
0xfaded wrote: post #24

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Same, I have a Mac at work and can suffer the horrible window management by just having more physical monitors (3 + the built in screen). I bought one for home use because I liked the hardware and the idea of running local llms. Long story short I'm still using my 6 year old Thinkpad running arch.

I think it is just us getting old. I used Linux since high school in the 90's, through all the way to the late 00's. I switched to OS X (long before it was macOS) because that's where all the and coming developer tools were, and I got tired of being sysadmin to my own Linux install as things break. Now I'm the opposite of you. I WANT to run Linux, and I have both a recent Framework and Lenovo laptop at home that I bo…

Genuine curiosity. Why would you buy a laptop with nvidia for the purpose of running Linux when it is known to be problematic?

I use Linux since ~ 28 years, and having seen all the trouble with Nvidia drivers, I just avoid it. I just pick an Intel graphics Thinkpad, likely the previous generation to the last one, check compatibility in the Arch wiki and then buy it.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by solardev »

raffraffraff wrote: post #462
solardev wrote: post #375

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As someone who grew up on DOS, Windows, OS/2 and Linux, macOS definitely took some getting used to (and I still have many gripes with it, especially the window management). Rectangle makes it better: https://github.com/rxhanson/Rectangle That said, though, Macbooks are far and away the best laptop hardware you can get right now, and the combination of a POSIX/unix-like CLI environment and the ability to run common ge…

It took me two weeks of farting about with Rectangle, alttab, hammerspoon and karabiner to make MacOS not give me face cancer every time I had to use it. I still kinda hate it because I can't get keyboard shortcuts to just fucking work. On the work MacBook I use the mouse more than I'd like because I can't reliably do stuff that I have done fluidly on windows and Linux for decades, mostly around keyboard cursor contr…

Yeah, the keyboard shortcuts in particular are terrible :( The macOS GUI is just not made for power users, and I often miss the speed of being able to jump around Windows and Linux with shortcuts.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by nextos »

harshitaneja wrote: post #451
nextos wrote: post #27

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> If someone has suggestions please share A recent ThinkPad with one of the latest AMD Ryzen U CPUs should have a very decent battery life. You just need some custom udev rules to set the right power saving states for different devices. Powertop should make this straightforward. IMHO, this is a great compromise, because you stay on x86_64 and Linux, you get within 3/4 of ARM's power efficiency, and hardware support i…

I use chromium based browser and applications so don't get to enjoy the benefit of the power efficiency gains of safari sadly. Geat to know this about your experience with thinkpads. Due to your familiarity with multiple such devices would you be able to recommend a starting point for someone who wants something light with budget not being a constraint?

The new x13 Gen 6 AMD with a U-series CPU and, ideally, configured with the 70Whr battery looks very nice. Should be less than 1 kg, similar to a MacBook Air.

I've used the previous generation, and it's possible to get 10 hours of use on battery with some tweaks.

It's a very popular model, so it's well tested and everything should just work with the latest kernel.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by n6242 »

adastra22 wrote: post #70
0xfaded wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same, I have a Mac at work and can suffer the horrible window management by just having more physical monitors (3 + the built in screen). I bought one for home use because I liked the hardware and the idea of running local llms. Long story short I'm still using my 6 year old Thinkpad running arch.

I think it is just us getting old. I used Linux since high school in the 90's, through all the way to the late 00's. I switched to OS X (long before it was macOS) because that's where all the and coming developer tools were, and I got tired of being sysadmin to my own Linux install as things break. Now I'm the opposite of you. I WANT to run Linux, and I have both a recent Framework and Lenovo laptop at home that I bo…

> I think it is just us getting old.

I don't think it's that. I've used Linux since high school as well and use Mac occasionally and I get the same feeling that Mac is weird and nonsensical.

The reason I'm pretty sure it's something intrinsical to Mac and not age, is that is that I also use Windows now and then and while I don't like it and I have lots of complaints about it, I find Windows in general does make more sense to me then Mac. It's just crappy and clunky and closed, but it's generally pretty straightforward.

And I've had people tell me that since Mac is unix compliant it's very similar to Linux but I've never found that to be the case. Mac in general is obtuse, poorly documented, rarely configurable, and I always get the impression they like to do everything based on some weird sense of aesthetic that they've cultivated over the years that seems to work for people fully invested in the Apple ecosystem but just makes no sense to anybody else.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by weikju »

dismalaf wrote: post #57
joshdavham wrote: post #34

How confident are people that Omarchy will be well maintained in the future? I'm considering making that same switch from MacOS to Arch, but I'm not sure if I should have confidence in something like Omarchy which is relatively new.

Why does it need to be maintained? It's just an install script to install common apps on Arch and to install and configure Hyprland. It's not really a distro on its own.

Hyprland might change. Other apps that are installed or even compiled might go stale or change. The chaotic-aur in use might change or need replacing. Arch or upstream packages might make changes causing issues eg some recent issue with a session manager that broke a lot of installs.

Etc.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by tomhow »

udev4096 wrote: post #218
phantomathkg wrote: post #148

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Why not recycle it? I thought Apple in general can trade in old device?

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Post by mokkol »

asteroidburger wrote: post #68
abdullahkhalids wrote: post #67

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I can't figure out how to set a shortcut that moves the current window to my other monitor. Always have to go into the toolbar to do it. Edit: And oh! Why do I constantly have to (painfully manually) maximize windows. Preview is constantly choosing a different size, for example. Why is this not remembered. I can't recall the last time an application in linux forgot its size after restarting.

You might like https://github.com/rxhanson/Rectangle

This app solves all window problems for me as well.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by udev4096 »

tomhow wrote: post #468
udev4096 wrote: post #218

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