Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

theverge.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

461–470 of 1001 posts

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#461

Post by rustystump »

gmueckl wrote: post #435
meindnoch wrote: post #404

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft being the cool guys? The cool guys ? Mwuhahahhaa. This gave me the good belly laugh I needed. For the last 25 years, Microsoft was known for: - being the no. 1 enemy of free software - shipping the worst web browser in existence, despite 80%+ market share - making corrupt deals with governments around the world to tie them to their office software suite - creating vendor-locked proprietary extensions to kil…

This comment comes some 15 years late. Microsoft runs the biggest org on github and has open sourced a lot of their own code under permissive licenses. IE has been dead and buried for ages. Edge doesn't have even close to the same market share and is based on Chromium. They build more and more of their own UIs on Electron. I honestly don't remember when they tried to snare someone to use proprietary extensions to som…

Idk i can think of a long list of awful stuff coming out of ms that is modern. They put fing ads in an os among other atrocities.

I put them behind meta on the evilness meter but i think google is less evil which speaks volumes.

The only side of ms that i have any love for is xbox but that is also waning with all the studio acquisitions.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#462

Post by hilux »

herval wrote: post #298
sho_hn wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Even among tech people, they have good will Wait, do they? I mostly remember: - A neglected desktop OS with slowly deteriorating quality - Aimless products like the Vision Pro that seems to have failed as the "get the devs excited" premium SDK launch everyone described it as - Rocky start issues on Apple Intelligence, nerfed Siri, etc. - Unexciting iPhone launch and lots of ridicule levied on Liquid Glass It's the…

Apple is certainly fumbling in recent years, and it's clearly behind in some games (Siri, AI in general, iPhones turning into a yearly snooze-fest). But of all the FAANG, I'd say it's the only one I trust, simply because they're not trying to sell my data and have a consistent stance on security.

Apple is behind in AI because they've prioritized keeping private data on your device, rather than in the cloud, but today's best (or even good) inference models still require cloud-scale compute, i.e. they don't fit on a phone.

I think we basically agree - just clarifying here.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#463

Post by wvenable »

827a wrote: post #163

My deepest concern at this time isn't that AI eventually gets written down to nothing; because I don't think it will. Its that these companies are so scared of being out-competed by an AI-first competitor that they're willing to make deep sacrifices to their core businesses just to effectively virtue signal that they're AI first and unable to be out-competed. It is deeply concerning because all things point to realit…

> Its a fascinating inversion of the early internet problem, where companies who were unwilling to innovate got out-competed.

Is it though? There's a reason why Microsoft's JVM competitor is called ".NET". They were planning Windows .NET Server 2003, Office.NET, etc.

I don't think an inversion of the hype cycle, it's just another hype cycle exactly. I think, in fact, it's extremely comparable. I remember people joking about Pets.com -- just imagine buying your pet food online?!? Crazy stuff. AI is the same. It's hyped up massively, there will eventually be some kind of correction, and then it'll become the new normal.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#465

Post by meindnoch »

mv4 wrote: post #447
meindnoch wrote: post #404

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft being the cool guys? The cool guys ? Mwuhahahhaa. This gave me the good belly laugh I needed. For the last 25 years, Microsoft was known for: - being the no. 1 enemy of free software - shipping the worst web browser in existence, despite 80%+ market share - making corrupt deals with governments around the world to tie them to their office software suite - creating vendor-locked proprietary extensions to kil…

While I mostly agree with your assessment, I feel like the Xbox is pretty cool.

At this point it's an open secret that there won't be another Xbox. So yeah, they made something cool, and managed to fumble it.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#466

Post by bitbasher »

GitHub has been a growing disappointment for quite a while.

1. GitHub itself isn't opensource despite being the opensource forge.

2. Microsoft (of all companies) acquired it.

3. Microsoft pushes VSCode and kills GitHub's Atom.

4. GitHub employees are quite political (master branch rename, ICE protest resignations, etc).

5. GitHub striking down repositories and user accounts (the Russian developer, yt-dlp, etc).

6. LLMs trained on public and private code without consent or opting in.

7. GitHub forcing AI agents in pull requests and in various pages on GitHub.

8. GitHub's CEO resigning and now in more of Microsoft's AI control.

I left back when GitHub was acquired by Microsoft. I wondered if it was a mistake for me to leave, but.. I haven't regretted it yet.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#467

Post by sixothree »

meindnoch wrote: post #404
pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

Microsoft being the cool guys? The cool guys ? Mwuhahahhaa. This gave me the good belly laugh I needed. For the last 25 years, Microsoft was known for: - being the no. 1 enemy of free software - shipping the worst web browser in existence, despite 80%+ market share - making corrupt deals with governments around the world to tie them to their office software suite - creating vendor-locked proprietary extensions to kil…

I don't know where you've been the last decade, but it's clear they have been perceived this way. Him describing that perception only to be ridiculed by you is a pretty low blow.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#468

Post by criddell »

tonypapousek wrote: post #299
rockemsockem wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For hardware only

Eh, macOS is still the UNIX with the most commercial software available. 26 feels like a misstep*, of course, but I’ll take it over a Windows environment any day. * Xcode 26 is kinda neat, though

A mac can (legally) run more software than any other computer. Obviously, macOS apps work, but you can also run most Windows and Linux applications (in a VM). There's also a bunch of iOS/iPadOS apps that can work and some Android apps can run through BlueStacks.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#469

Post by gamblor956 »

pbiggar wrote: post #140
pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

Not just that, but Microsoft's reputation is in the process of taking a nose dive over its human rights record https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/06/microsoft-isra...

That's true of most of tech in general, these days. You have to pick your poison now.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#470

Post by p1necone »

jedberg wrote: post #443
meindnoch wrote: post #404

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft being the cool guys? The cool guys ? Mwuhahahhaa. This gave me the good belly laugh I needed. For the last 25 years, Microsoft was known for: - being the no. 1 enemy of free software - shipping the worst web browser in existence, despite 80%+ market share - making corrupt deals with governments around the world to tie them to their office software suite - creating vendor-locked proprietary extensions to kil…

> making cringe hardware that basically noone purchased Their keyboards were arguably the best ones around. I'm literally typing this on a 20 year old MS keyboard right now.

Likewise the Intellimouse Pro is my favourite mouse. Sadly they seem to have discontinued it in favor of the Surface mouse which has atrocious ergonomics.
Post reply on HN