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Post by sleet_spotter »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #212
sleet_spotter wrote: post #206

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While I sympathize with the feeling, it’s a stretch to say “obligated by law”. You pay taxes, which your legally-elected representatives decide how to spend. We elect them to speak and choose on our behalf. It isn’t a “loophole” when this runs afoul of an individual’s values. It is simply that we have a representative government that makes decisions by majority votes. I don’t agree with most defense spending, but I a…

>While I sympathize with the feeling, it’s a stretch to say “obligated by law”. You pay taxes, The number of steps that “Pay Taxes” is removed from “Literally At Fucking Gunpoint” is not as many steps as you might think.

I’m not sure if you are intentionally trying to miss the point. The comment was claiming they are obligated by law to support media they don’t agree with. We are all equivalently obligated by law to not steal or commit other crimes. We pay taxes. They are part of the contract of our society. What our representatives decide to spend them on doesn’t change that.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

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Post by subsistence234 »

nemomarx wrote: post #434
thevillagechief wrote: post #347

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My point here is that "strong institutions" were supposed to stem this tide. Of course, I should have thought through who made up these institutions. In some ways institutions kind of held up pretty well 2016-2020. Which is why I was a little less worried. But looks like that was a dry run. The efficiency with which this is happening now is shocking. Honestly, I'm kind of impressed. If we applied this much efficiency…

You gotta hand it to the project 2025 people, they really organized and got their own planners in the right positions to execute on that.

It's not like we abused people's trust, and then they stopped trusting us. No, a cabal of evil tricksters tricked them into not trusting us anymore. We're totally trustworthy.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

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Post by legitster »

CGMthrowaway wrote: post #368
legitster wrote: post #316

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> such as HRC & DNC involvement in orchestrating Russiagate I'm not trying to be dismissive of your viewpoint, but why should anyone bother speaking to this? Absolutely nothing new was divulged. It's not the media's responsibility to give airtime over every government press release.

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/declassified_d...

These documents don't really contain anything.

All you see are staffers at the Hillary campaign discussing the news of the Russian influence campaigns (which this report reiterates are real) and how they can use it for their campaign.

Nothing in here is novel or even that salacious. How is this newsworthy?

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

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Post by jordanpg »

tptacek wrote: post #296

This is a giant thread full of people lamenting the demise of public broadcasting so it seems like someone should write the comment that points out that CPB doesn't do PBS programming. They don't develop content. They're a grantmaking organization that manages the distribution of the congressional PBS appropriation. The actual PBS and NPR shows you're familiar with are generally developed and produced privately, and…

You may be right, but I'm guessing the Administration is not done with NPR and PBS yet. This is just phase I.

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Post by vkou »

aspenmayer wrote: post #342
dh2022 wrote: post #318

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NPR was not rightward this past election, for sure. I don’t think NPR missed to report a single Kamala endorsement last fall.

I thought they meant NPR was generally neoliberal left of center, and their coverage has perhaps moved toward the center post-Obama while still being left of it.

Where exactly is the American 'center' as of 2025? Where is the midway point between the modern establishment left and the establishment MAGA right?

Because to me, that midpoint looks to be way to the right of, say, Mitt Romney or George Bush Jr or Reagan.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

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Post by [deleted] »

outside1234 wrote: post #410
vel0city wrote: post #319

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> and then purchased by local PBS stations If those stations go off the air, who is buying that content? It's like arguing it doesn't matter if the stream dries up the plants don't get water from the stream, the plants get the water from the ground. Where did that water in the ground come from? The stream! You're right, these shows aren't going off the air tomorrow. But this does affect the funding for the shows prod…

Don’t worry, they will be able to get plenty of grants for content promoting Trump’s businesses

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Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

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Post by cyanydeez »

tptacek wrote: post #420
joshuahaglund wrote: post #411

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> The actual PBS and NPR shows you're familiar with are generally developed and produced privately Off the top of my head, two programs I watch that get CPB funding include: Frontline https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/about-us/our-funders/ NOVA https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/funders/ This is one place some sorta "trickle down" economics worked. CPB contributed to developing the content on PBS. Now PBS either has to c…

I think the cuts are bad and certainly there will be programming losses. It's just not an existential threat to public media in America, which has over the last 20 years become far less dependent on local stations. GBH, which produces Frontline, gets $177MM in revenue from major donors and viewer subscriptions.

Yeah, I think you underestimate the structural dependency.

Xkcd comic is closer to reality. There is a base load to public good and we are about to find out

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Post by jfengel »

munchler wrote: post #20

I listen to NPR every day and, honestly, I think this might be for the best. It's going to hurt for a while, but in the end, I think public broadcasting will be stronger when it stands on its own without interference from politicians.

You prefer interference by corporations?

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

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Post by tptacek »

cyanydeez wrote: post #467
tptacek wrote: post #420

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the cuts are bad and certainly there will be programming losses. It's just not an existential threat to public media in America, which has over the last 20 years become far less dependent on local stations. GBH, which produces Frontline, gets $177MM in revenue from major donors and viewer subscriptions.

Yeah, I think you underestimate the structural dependency. Xkcd comic is closer to reality. There is a base load to public good and we are about to find out

We'll find out, but I think always the bias on HN is towards whichever interpretation of an event is most dramatic.

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Post by tptacek »

hedora wrote: post #445
tptacek wrote: post #296

This is a giant thread full of people lamenting the demise of public broadcasting so it seems like someone should write the comment that points out that CPB doesn't do PBS programming. They don't develop content. They're a grantmaking organization that manages the distribution of the congressional PBS appropriation. The actual PBS and NPR shows you're familiar with are generally developed and produced privately, and…

Given that CBP is only 15% of PBS funding, I’m surprised they don’t start a national fundraising campaign instead. I’d happily donate some cash to keep PBS’s lights on in red states.

Do you subscribe to your local station and have a Passport account? Consider doing that first.
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