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Gemini CLI
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Re: Gemini CLI
#462Earlier quoted context omitted.
your data can be used UNLESS you opt out It's even more nuanced than that. Google recently testified in court that they still train on user data after users opt out from training [1]. The loophole is that the opt-out only applies to one organization within Google, but other organizations are still free to train on the data. They may or may not have cleaned up their act given that they're under active investigation, b…
Another dimension here is that any "we don't train on your data" is useless without a matching data retention policy which deletes your data. Case and point of 23andMe not selling your data until they decided to change that policy.
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Re: Gemini CLI
#463Earlier quoted context omitted.
People said the same thing about shopping at walmart instead of locally.
Isn't that as toxic? I've read a bunch about Walmart and the whole thing is basically a scam. They get a ton of tax incentives, subsidies, etc to build shoddy infrastructure that can only be used for big box stores (pretty much), so the end cost for Walmart to build their stores is quite low. They promise to employ lots of locals, but many of those jobs are intentionally paid so low that they're not actually living w…
Integrated local stores are better for pretty much everything except for actually having what you want in stock.
There is a reason why rural communities welcome Wal-Mart with open arms. Not such a big deal now that you can mail-order anything more-or-less instantly, but back in the 80s when I was growing up in BFE, Wal-Mart was a godsend.
Re: Gemini CLI
#464Earlier quoted context omitted.
I did a little digging into this just yesterday. The impression I got was that Claude Code was pretty great, but also used a _lot_ more tokens than similar work using aider. Conversations I saw stated 5-10x more. So yes with Claude Code you can grab the Max plan and not worry too much about usage. With Aider you'll be paying per API call, but it will cost quite a bit less than the similar work if using Claude Code in…
> I concluded that – for me – Claude Code _may_ give me better results, but Aider will likely be cheaper than Claude Code in either API-mode or subscription-mode. I'd be pretty surprised if that was the case - something like ~8 hours of Aider use against Claude can spend $20, which is how much Claude Pro costs.
Indeed, I think I came to the incorrect conclusion! Just signed up for a subscription after getting through quite a lot of API funds!
Re: Gemini CLI
#465Earlier quoted context omitted.
Super weird! I've been using it the last week, and never hit the quota limit for free users. We're having some capacity issues right now, but that should not affect the quota. Would love it if you can try tomorrow or so again!
It's happening to me with API Key usage. I assume there are no Terms of Use protections on our data unless we access Gemini CLI in a paid manner? [API Error: {"error":{"message":"{\n \"error\": {\n \"code\": 429,\n \"message\": \"Resource has been exhausted (e.g. check quota).\",\n \"status\": \"RESOURCE_EXHAUSTED\"\n }\n}\n","code":429,"status":"Too Many Requests"}}] Please wait and try again later. To increase your…
Same here. I wish API users got priority over free Google account users...Guess I will wait until ~5pm when people go home for the day to try it.
Re: Gemini CLI
#466Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. The resulting class-action lawsuit would bankrupt the company, along with the reputation damage, and fines.
> Anthropic cut up millions of used books to train Claude — and downloaded over 7 million pirated ones too, a judge said https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropic-cut-pirated-millio... It doesn't look like they care at all about the law though
>Anthropic spent "many millions of dollars" buying used print books, then stripped off the bindings, cut the pages, and scanned them into digital files.
The judge, Alsup J, ruled that this was lawful.
So they cared at least a bit, enough to spend a lot of money buying books. But they didn't care enough not to acquire online libraries held apparently without proper licensing.
>Alsup wrote that Anthropic preferred to "steal" books to "avoid 'legal/practice/business slog,' as cofounder and CEO Dario Amodei put it."
Aside: using the term steal for copyright infringement is a particularly egregious misuse for a judge who should know that stealing requires denying others of the use of the stolen articles; something which copyright infringement via an online text repository simple could not do.
Re: Gemini CLI
#467Hi - I work on this. Uptake is a steep curve right now, spare a thought for the TPUs today. Appreciate all the takes so far, the team is reading this thread for feedback. Feel free to pile on with bugs or feature requests we'll all be reading.
one piece of feedback. Please do neovim on top of vim or have a way to customize the editor beyond your list.
someone has already sent out a PR for this!
https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/pull/1448
Re: Gemini CLI
#468Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It would be too wordy, or offer too many comments Wholeheartedly agree. Both when chatting in text mode or when asking it to produce code. The verbosity of the code is the worse. Comments often longer than the actual code, every nook and cranny of an algorithm unrolled over 100's of lines, most of which unnecessary. Feels like typical code a mediocre Java developer would produce in the early 2000's
> Feels like typical code a mediocre Java developer would produce in the early 2000's So, google's codebase
You were intimate with that?
Re: Gemini CLI
#469Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a heavy Claude code user that's not really a selling point for me Ultimately quality wins out with LLMs. Having switched a lot between openai, google and Claude, I feel there's essentially 0 switching cost and you very quickly get to feel which is the best. So until Claude has a solid competitor I'll use it, open source or not
Even if you don't care about open source, you should care about all the obfuscation happening in the prompts/models being used by Cursor/Claude Code/etc. With everything hidden, you could be paying 200/mo and get served Haiku instead of Sonnet/Opus. Or you could be getting 1k tokens of your code inserted as context instead of 100k to save on inference costs.
If what they're serving me is Haiku, then give me more Haiku.
Re: Gemini CLI
#470Are there any LLMs that offer ZSH plugins that integrate with command history, previous command outputs, system clipboard etc to assist writing the next command? Stuff like gemini/copilot CLI don't feel particularly useful to me. I'm not gonna type "?? print last 30 lines of this file"
not zsh but you might want to try warp 2.0