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Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by ArthurStacks »

glommer wrote: post #310
ArthurStacks wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I'm sure if you had your way the prisons would be empty of anyone convicted of a drug related crime because 'they and their terribly sad addictions/illnesses are the real victims' Theyre in prison as a punishment for crimes

Preston has never asked for anyone's sympathy or understanding about his past crimes. If you read his stuff, he owns it fully, is incredibly sorry. He's the first to admit that what he did had very real consequences.

Great. Now let him go sit in a jail cell and recieve his punishment, and give the dev opportunity to someone who didnt sell drugs and chose the easy route

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by ArthurStacks »

bastawhiz wrote: post #428
ArthurStacks wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I'm sure if you had your way the prisons would be empty of anyone convicted of a drug related crime because 'they and their terribly sad addictions/illnesses are the real victims' Theyre in prison as a punishment for crimes

To what end? To spend tax dollars? To make them rot away indefinitely? What good are we doing to society if we are keeping rehabilitated individuals locked up at taxpayer expense? There's no objectively correct amount of punishment. The correct amount of punishment should be the smallest amount of time necessary to be confident that the criminal won't cause more harm to society, especially when the crime was committe…

To what end? Justice.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by jldugger »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #251
croemer wrote: post #246

Great story, I wish this inspired more prisons around the world to follow suit. For those who don't want to hit Google, the conviction was for possessing 30g of a synthetic opioid "U-47700". A normal dose is ~1mg, 10mg can be deadly (so this was 30000 trips or killing 3000). The drug became illegal across the US on November 14, 2016. "Police said they found the drug in Thorpe’s apartment in Manchester in December 201…

Wow, 15-30 years seems like an insane amount of time for drug possession. Even if the amount implied dealing, that still seems really high. Don't people typically get less than that for sexual assault or armed robbery?

Preston's recent interview with the changelog podcast[1] explains that he's been convicted twice. Repeat offenders don't usually get light treatments.

[1]: https://changelog.com/podcast/642

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by ArthurStacks »

bastawhiz wrote: post #423
croemer wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rehabilitation is great. But you might have the wrong idea about the crime. It wasn't just addiction. He had enough U-47700 for 30,000 trips (30 thousand). See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44291172

I'm not disputing that. But someone doesn't simply decide to acquire that much of a very serious drug with a sound mind. Is it fair to treat a crime the same for two people if one person is suffering from schizophrenia and the other is of sound mind? Simply saying "you did a terrible thing, and that's irredeemable" isn't useful to society. What good are you doing if you've rehabilitated the criminal? You're just spen…

Great, go take that idea to the parents who want justice for the child who is dead due to scumbags like this guy.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by keepamovin »

BizarroLand wrote: post #259
keepamovin wrote: post #114

Reading this, I think it's a crime that this guy is not out on early release. The majority of his sentence was for marijuana, which is now widely decriminalized and in some places legalized.

I agree he should be released but using the mail to transport marijuana across state lines is definitely not legalized or decriminalized anywhere.

No but in my mind on principle because it’s legalized and decriminalized, this should not be a 10 year sentence.

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Post by keepamovin »

sneak wrote: post #452
greglansky wrote: post #443

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He broke his gf's arm as part of a prolonged campaign of domestic violence against her.

This was conveniently omitted from both TFA as well as the linked “how I got here” post. Where did you learn this?

I’m basing my view on what he said in the blog. Where is this said?

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by keepamovin »

badc0ffee wrote: post #434
keepamovin wrote: post #114

Reading this, I think it's a crime that this guy is not out on early release. The majority of his sentence was for marijuana, which is now widely decriminalized and in some places legalized.

He received a suspended sentence for the marijuana. But then he breached his probation, and there were later charges including one for carfentanil.

I recall what I read in his blog post was “majority of sentence was for marijuana”

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by keepamovin »

bastawhiz wrote: post #288
keepamovin wrote: post #114

Reading this, I think it's a crime that this guy is not out on early release. The majority of his sentence was for marijuana, which is now widely decriminalized and in some places legalized.

I do not believe this is true. Looking at the record, marijuana is one of a few drugs. The specific incident that led to his current sentence is related to a powerful opioid. This is corroborated by Preston's own personal website.

Blog post said majority of sentence was for marijuana. Where do you find this other stuff?

I mean it would be sad if he was lying - but i don’t see any of that.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by potato3732842 »

Aurornis wrote: post #299
stickfigure wrote: post #267

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"enough of a controlled substance to kill" is an absurd, inflammatory metric. They guy was selling a good to willing and aware buyers and we have no reason to believe he was trying to kill anyone. He shouldn't be in prison, period.

> They guy was selling a good to willing and aware buyers In general, high-potency opioids are cut (diluted) with other powders and then sold as a different product to unsuspecting buyers. Most fentanyl overdoses are from people who thought they were consuming a different, more familiar opioid. Fentanyl and other synthetic opioids like this one are preferred by drug dealers because it's much easier to smuggle a tiny…

They're sold as some other known opiod and the dealers typically try to dose them to be equivalent because that's all they're getting paid for.

There is no incentive to give out "free drugs", not least because you might kill an otherwise paying customer.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by rustcleaner »

rangestransform wrote: post #421
cess11 wrote: post #376

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"You don't get to do a little crime, as a treat" Why not? I much prefer a society in which I can get away with some crimes to one where every crime is prosecuted.

Discretionary enforcement is just used as a way to disguise discrimination Perhaps our laws would be fairer and simpler if enforcement were draconian and uniform

Better a potentially discriminatory society I'm the ingroup in, than a totalitarian utopia where every criminal rule is enforced mercilessly.
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